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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • ? Guest
    This is gold!! I'd love to read more about it!! It's very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
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    It was pretty wild. I wish I still had the list of visa/MC "no-nos" I mean honestly the US government was more lax. all they wanted was us to ensure we were following the 2257 stuff and documenting all the talent. surprisingly though American Express was a lot more "liberal" with this stuff. guess those dudes were just kinkier.
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    • ? Guest
      That is exactly why I don't understand why they have an issue with it. They do not know if someone is using the store to buy porn games. So why care? Their concern should be profit, not national driven policies.
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      They care because someone could see that it is possible to buy porn games in the steam interface (they could even make screenshots of a steam checkout page with both the name of a porn game and the visa/MasterCard/PayPal logos visible at the same time) and that would RUIN, RUIN I say, their good reputation.. 😑 Because bank's and payment provider do anything to keep their good reputation with the important people... advertisement companies and other Mc Scrounges
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      • ? Guest
        No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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        That's true for all non precious metal currencies.
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        • G grumpy@sh.itjust.works
          Payment processors don't know which game you bought. That's not the concern. Their concern is that the store they do business with provides services to content they deem inappropriate. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed this much for so long given the past. Why credit card processors are puritans, I have no idea. But MC, Visa and PayPal have historically always been super anti-porn.
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          They act puritan to help facilitate business in more restricted cultures like China or Vietnam. Allowing everything that is allowed in the most liberal countries wouldn't loose them their marketshare in those countries. Disallowing it though, that opens those foreign markets with minimal negative effect to their processing volume. How many people are going to blame visa for this? Most will just blame Steam who is just conforming to the standards the processors set.
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          • ? Guest
            My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.
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            Buying gift cards, which are in fiat currency, defeats the whole point lol
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              They act puritan to help facilitate business in more restricted cultures like China or Vietnam. Allowing everything that is allowed in the most liberal countries wouldn't loose them their marketshare in those countries. Disallowing it though, that opens those foreign markets with minimal negative effect to their processing volume. How many people are going to blame visa for this? Most will just blame Steam who is just conforming to the standards the processors set.
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              Wouldn't that still falls under steam responsibilities? If China doesn't like porn games, they would/should go after steam allowing the sale of such games in their market, not Visa which has no means to know what games you purchased
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                ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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                A rare L for Steam. Not exactly their fault, but I wonder what changed that made them start caring.
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                  Things of questionable moral value have been available for sale for as long as money has existed. It’s not like this is new. Payment processors got into this business knowing perfectly well that some purchases may not align with their moral values. In fact, they’ve been profiting off it for decades. They don’t get to suddenly clutch their pearls _now_. To be clear, I won’t miss the incest games. I just don’t like the precedent this is setting.
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                  Processors don't even deserve the right to even learn what morals even are. They are business entities, and shouldn't have any rights at all, honestly. They're just there to move money and shouldn't get any say at all in what that means. None. Honestly, (to your last point) fuck anyone who is into that shit in any kind of practical way.(if they wanna goon about it, that's another discussion. But even with adding "step", it's kinda close to that vanta black color on the sunniest day. But if having erotic software keeps them out of their siblings and parents and kids' beds, then more power to em.
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                  • S shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
                    I think a better example would be net neutrality. The whole purpose of the payment provider is to move money from Person A to Person B. Just like how ISP is meant to get you from Website A to Website B. It would be like your ISP going "Woah there buckeroo. You can't go to Duck, Duck Go to search. We only let you go to Google."
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                    Ahh man, Australia have tried DNS blocking websites via our ISPs however running your own or changing your DNS (on your local machine or your modem if it's not locked down) completely dumpsters this strategy. From memory torrent websites were blocked and some rom / game piracy sites.
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                    • ? Guest
                      Buying gift cards, which are in fiat currency, defeats the whole point lol
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                      Obviously I'd prefer to pay in crypto directly but some of the stores I shop in don't accept it yet. In person I can pay in cash but shopping privately online is a different story. Gift cards are the next best option, and thanks to them I can use the self checkout scanner and online stores without my purchasing history being tracked. It also allows me to store my savings in a hard asset that can't be easily confiscated, frozen, inflated or stolen, that I can permissionlessly spend whenever I need to, that no one knows how much of or if I have, that if needs be I can flee the country with in an instant without worry that it will be sized or lost. And it gives me the freedom to not be at the mercy of the banking system and just take their debit card fee, debit card issuance fee, debit card replacement fee, transfer fee, deposit fee, overdraft fee, underdraft fee, too little money fee, account having fee, fuck you what you gonna do fee...
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                      • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS skullgrid@lemmy.world
                        On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap? On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
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                        I mean isn’t this effectively the problem bitcoin aimed to solve originally? Don’t get me wrong, crypto is fucked and I’m not advocating for it here per se. But a locally processed, secure, digital version of cash bypasses the need for any of this. Granted it bypasses the need for some of the most powerful institutions on the planet too, and so will never happen in a truly egalitarian sense.
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                        • ? Guest
                          Obviously I'd prefer to pay in crypto directly but some of the stores I shop in don't accept it yet. In person I can pay in cash but shopping privately online is a different story. Gift cards are the next best option, and thanks to them I can use the self checkout scanner and online stores without my purchasing history being tracked. It also allows me to store my savings in a hard asset that can't be easily confiscated, frozen, inflated or stolen, that I can permissionlessly spend whenever I need to, that no one knows how much of or if I have, that if needs be I can flee the country with in an instant without worry that it will be sized or lost. And it gives me the freedom to not be at the mercy of the banking system and just take their debit card fee, debit card issuance fee, debit card replacement fee, transfer fee, deposit fee, overdraft fee, underdraft fee, too little money fee, account having fee, fuck you what you gonna do fee...
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                          Hate to be a party pooper, but unless you're going thru self checkout (and the store for that matter) fully masked, you've given up way more information than by using Visa. I'll give you the access benefit.
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                          • O otp@sh.itjust.works
                            >the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. Ah, so I guess Canada doesn't use them! Haha
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                            Haha but also last I checked everyone but north Korea uses them and north Korea I'm just pulling out of my ass because it makes sense to me.
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                              A rare L for Steam. Not exactly their fault, but I wonder what changed that made them start caring.
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                              Probably the last tweet that was posted on this thread, if PayPal was denying purchases in certain regions than steam would get scared
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                                Probably the last tweet that was posted on this thread, if PayPal was denying purchases in certain regions than steam would get scared
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                                That was kinda what I was alluding to. Apparently it worked before that, but they decided to make up extra rules or turned up enforcement.
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