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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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    I think you should be more concerned about easily accessible things like hentai sites, weirdos, elsagate, etc. I don't know if there are any free hentai games on Steam (and if there are, they shouldn't be free), but children certainly shouldn't have free access to Steam (or even the internet in general), and if some parents kids can just spend their parents money on hentai, then maybe those parents should rethink their parenting methods and pay more attention to their kids, imho. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
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    Completely agree on that. We have set an age and before that, our kids wont have an account in anything. 13 is the absolute minimum we agreed. Cant really control much after that, not would i want to. They should know what and what not to do in most cases by then. I know i did.
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      sure, we're both on the same page, but pointing out non-alternative alternatives isn't exactly a contribution to a discussion.
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      the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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      I feel it was a good answer to the question posed > Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds?
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        [getmonero.org](https://www.getmonero.org/) 1 minute average confirmation time, private by default. Eth average confirmation time is 6 seconds and right now it's doing 16 transactions per second, not counting L2s. Blockchains are way more secure than a centralized database controlled by a financial institution that can freeze or deny you the right to use your money or fat-finger your life savings away with no recourse.
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        azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
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        > 16 transactions per second Please, that's *nothing*. In a mass adoption scenario, the whole thing would either crumble or eat a significant portion of the world's electric production. I won't have an argument about the futility of the whole decentralization endeavor and how it fails to meaningfully address any of the very real concerns that central banking has addressed over the centuries. History has already proven all of you fools.
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          ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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          Finally good news
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            Finally good news
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            lwl@lemmy.world
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            While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it's further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police. And it's just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.
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              The EU is investigating a digital euro, but you won’t be pleased to learn that one of the key reasons is to *increase* tracking and compliance. Meaning their stated goal is to be able to restrict how the currency is used, by who, when, and on what. The EU is the very last organisation to ever create and maintain an anonymous and agnostic currency.
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              One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click
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              • ? Guest
                JAST, Kagura, DlSite, Itch, Patreon, and GOG are some vendors. I recommend JAST and Kagura, since they are dedicated to perverse games. DlSite is good if you want to buy Japanese exclusive games, and then pirate the unofficially translated versions.
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                lwl@lemmy.world
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                Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you're in germany, thanks to some "think of the children" people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)
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                  I didn't know this till I heard a podcast series about this, but the global rulemakes for porn are Visa and Mastercard. They decide what "goes too far" and remove a site from their service if they don't like it, effectively cutting off all revenue streams and killing the site. They did this with porn sites and threatened OnlyFans. There are a bunch of rules they've written for the industry (e.g. fingering an orofice with4 fingers was acceptable, but when the thumb goes in then it becomes "fisting" and this used to be unacceptable), but many rules are unwritten and have to be guessed. [I think this is the podcast series](https://www.ft.com/content/762e4648-06d7-4abd-8d1e-ccefb74b3244) for anyone interested (although I heard this a long time ago and I'm not sure if it was a different series and I'm not going to listen again to confirm).
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                  yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this. there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was "OK" as long as it was "step-" whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say "step-mom" or whatever and then later on just say "mom". Step-Dad was...hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you're not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or "abuse" porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself. fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
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                    This is why cryptocurrencies were created. [getmonero.org](https://www.getmonero.org/)
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                    No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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                      > shipping company should be able to refuse to ship products from businesses they don’t approve of Sure, I don't have a problem with that. I would use another shipping company. > What about either of those companies refusing service to someone because of their sexual orientation or gender identity? That is not remotely the same thing and a gross false equivalence. We're talking about platforming incest hentai games and you're making a comparison to serving Black and queer people. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this, have a good one.
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                      ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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                      No, it's similar because it's a business making a value judgement instead of a business judgement. It would be different if your exact argument hadn't been used against those groups in the past. I doubt we'll see eye to eye as well. I'm not okay with discrimination and I don't think the beliefs of corporations matter, even when they're being judgey about sex stuff I don't understand.
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                        You're like the negative photo of a boomer. "Everything I don't like is capitalism!"
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                        God forbid I pin the actual reason for the complaint that is effecting you and explain why.
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                          Drawn and CSAM don't go together
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                          I didn't come here to have that argument. Things as they are, you can search for lolicon in most corporate owned search engines and be told about scam being illegal. It is what it is and I used that as the basis for my argument not your feelings on...what, thought crime?
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                            As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i'm gonna have problems with it. Do you think Lemmy checks for age?
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                            Stop using children as a stand-in for your discomfort. That is so overdone.
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                              No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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                              Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictible inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveiled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.
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                                I feel it was a good answer to the question posed > Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds?
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                                Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it. Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?
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                                  Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you're in germany, thanks to some "think of the children" people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)
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                                  Yeah that even applies to some games that aren’t porn games but just feature nudity like the Fear & Hunger series.
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                                    I didn't come here to have that argument. Things as they are, you can search for lolicon in most corporate owned search engines and be told about scam being illegal. It is what it is and I used that as the basis for my argument not your feelings on...what, thought crime?
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                                    Ohh look i did want to to argue either. I just think it is a bad idea to throw those two together because most people are too ignorant/emotional to make a difference and thats bad. And a thought is not a crime imo so whatever fantasy rocks your boat idc.
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                                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS skullgrid@lemmy.world
                                      Ok, and you forgot cash. That can be used to process payment too if you think about it. Just not an appropriate solution for this context though, is it?
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                                      the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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                                      Considering your question was about a "payment card acceptance system" "for payment processing in under 30 seconds", no, cash is not an appropriate answer your very specific question.
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                                        Cool, I'll keep transacting privately and uncensored with minimal fees, no middle man and predictible inflation with my pyramid scheme and you're free to stick to your surveiled, censored, ever inflating FIAT.
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                                        What actual items or services are you buying with crypto? Trading and buying other crypto doesn't count, neither does selling the crypto
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                                          yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this. there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was "OK" as long as it was "step-" whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say "step-mom" or whatever and then later on just say "mom". Step-Dad was...hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you're not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or "abuse" porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself. fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
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                                          This is gold!! I'd love to read more about it!! It's very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
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