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  • R ricecake@sh.itjust.works
    >why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions. To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.
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    financial institutions are just like any other company, the only issue the feds try to protect them
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      ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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      Or maybe using the payment processor's TOS allows them to remove pervy Ai horseshit without having to mod their own TOS. Slam dunk, frankly.
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        Eh, it *sounds* like a good idea that incest games are getting removed.
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        how does that sound like a good idea?
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        • R ricecake@sh.itjust.works
          >why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions. To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.
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          iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
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          What if these payment processors have decided it's bad business for them to process payments for incest porn games?
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            It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards. And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?
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            why shouldn't people be allowed to make artistic choices when drawing pornography?
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              Bitcoin has [lightning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) or you could use a chain with faster blocks.
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              >Lightning Labs launched the Lightning Network in 2018 with the goal of reducing the cost and time required for cryptocurrency transaction. Specifically, the bitcoin blockchain can only process around 7 transactions per second (compared to Visa Inc., which can process around 24,000 transactions per second). Despite initial enthusiasm for the Lightning Network, reports on social media of failed transactions, security vulnerabilities, and over-complication lead to a decline in interest.
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                ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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                First they came for the incestuous porn Then they came for the furries Then they came for games with violence Then...
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                  Here's what i think is likely. For one reason or another, they get excessive refund/chargeback requests regarding these types of titles and decided to act as they don't think it's profitable. I don't think they care what so ever what you buy, as long as it's profitable for them.
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                  I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.
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                    ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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                    Wait a minute, PayPal is pulling puritanical bullshit again? Did they learn nothing from the last time they tried that?
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                      Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
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                      They had Bitcoin integration for quite a while. It was removed during a system change, probably because very few people used it
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                        This is why I've been buying games on GOG that I have on Steam. Backups in case Gabe or a successor goes off the deep end
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                        I don't have any fear that Gabe will tank steam. But I will fear what happens after him
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                          It's not about porn, It's about corporations dictating what type of content can be sold. You may not care about porn but what if they were to start going after LGBT stuff or something like that?
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                          That’s the entire point of this. They want to control everything in your life, including the pervy things that affect literally nobody. The entire point is to restrict happiness to things they control. Anything they don’t control is bad. I think the porn games are stupid but they don’t harm people at all so there is no reason for them not to exist. In other news, I have a similar form of financial censorship. For years, I have refused to accept or send money through PayPal and its sister products.
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                            First they came for the incestuous animal foot job simulators, and I did not speak out
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                            Did you just rule 34 that “first they came for…” poem? Jesus Christ. Bravo, but still.
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                            • I iamthetot@sh.itjust.works
                              Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs? Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
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                              Because it’s not their fucking money! If someone is selling a thing, offers to sell it to me for money, and I give them money, I get the fucking thing! The processors can fuck right off with their Victorian bullshit.
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                                I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.
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                                We need to stop these Christians from oppressing us.
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                                  Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society. It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
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                                  There's also no choice. Which payment processor and credit card do I choose so that I can buy any legal pornography I want? How do you even get a card that's not.visa or MasterCard for.l general use? I've only ever had one of those
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                                    I wish that was the case. It's mostly just extreme right lobbying groups like Focus on the Family and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the same groups that control the far right, exert colonial control over impoverished African countries, and generally make the world a worse place for everyone. The same groups that manufactured cases to screw up Dobbs, Wedding cake lawsuits, and death penalty laws for LGBTQ citizens of Uganda.
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                                    Do you have proof of this? Capitalism doesn’t know any sort of morality or ideology other than that which allows it to extract the most value
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                                      Good. That shit is vile.
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                                      Fuck off
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                                        If the US used something like pix, MasterCard, visa, etc wouldn't have any power to do this, but they are wanting to make Brazil delete pix from existing. Interesting.
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                                        I wish I could use that as an American. I trust Brazil more than I trust America
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                                          Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs
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                                          Agreed. If it's not illegal then it should be allowed. Not that I approve of this type of content, but corporations should not be selectively enforcing their morals.
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