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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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    Does this mean they got rid of that one game where you drug your sister/wife repeatedly so a guy in the hallway doesn't kill you? 12 Minutes that's what it was called !
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    Does it count as repeatedly when its in a time loop?
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      Payment processors don't know which game you bought. That's not the concern. Their concern is that the store they do business with provides services to content they deem inappropriate. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed this much for so long given the past. Why credit card processors are puritans, I have no idea. But MC, Visa and PayPal have historically always been super anti-porn.
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      That is exactly why I don't understand why they have an issue with it. They do not know if someone is using the store to buy porn games. So why care? Their concern should be profit, not national driven policies.
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        I'm sure you have your limit too. Otherwise you're lying to yourself. I think children not getting exposed for cartoon porn is a pretty good stop. Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it's harmless. Stop pretending that furries is about anything other than fantasy of fucking your favorite cartoon please.
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        > I’m sure you have your limit too. Considering this is the very excuse used in practice right now to demonize very real people and take away their rights, I have very little sympathy for this argument that is entirely based on hypotheticals. No. People should publish all the weird porn they want. > Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it’s harmless. It *is* literally harmless. It's a fantasy. > fucking your favorite cartoon I thought furries were usually original characters, but if someone wants to fuck Mickey Mouse, good for them.
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        • not_rick@lemmy.worldN not_rick@lemmy.world
          It’s kind of messy because I think there is a subset of the fandom where it isn’t necessarily sexualized. Like, Khajit and Argonians from Elder Scrolls are pretty much furries but they’re not explicitly sexual. Feel like I’m getting over my skis in terms of my understanding of that fandom since I’m not in that world. No idea how if at all those cons keep the kid safe stuff separate from the sex shit, if at all.
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          Yes, furry conventions that allow children do not allow children into 18+ spaces. At the very least there's always staff checking attendee badges which tend to say right on them if the attendee is an adult or not.
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            Yes, furry conventions that allow children do not allow children into 18+ spaces. At the very least there's always staff checking attendee badges which tend to say right on them if the attendee is an adult or not.
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            not_rick@lemmy.world
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            Pretty much what I expected, thanks for confirming
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              Does it count as repeatedly when its in a time loop?
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              I would argue that since the game requires you to do it multiple times to figure out what's going on, yes it does count as repeatedly.
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                > "Gambling/predictions" I bet most of your crypto goes there, eh? No, I'm not rich enough to be wasting money and don't really enjoy feeling like my heart is going to jump out of my chest, gambling with literal pennies once in a blue moon is more of my style. > And no, I'm not clicking a link that says "money america" or "bazaar" No worries, I'll post some screenshots for you. ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/1a398046-a579-4fb9-b4ce-b721fa547c27.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/7d81e736-d17e-46c4-9b3d-da308f440316.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/f5046810-023f-480e-9694-bf85984835f8.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/7560a680-225e-4015-9e40-379134b0054a.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/f9061b53-2cfd-484e-90f2-95c9f0193c96.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/b3c4fd1b-106c-4748-aa7a-b2b2b738443c.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/ddc93c6c-40c3-4200-b7ee-ad18a00ea54e.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/5f431fe6-9c5f-4813-9a5c-a15db7a82639.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/9f0ce58b-c894-4dad-91c0-f39e48978599.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/73d5eb21-7cca-4421-abda-ca57b8cbd5c9.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/496f1c47-6527-4445-9415-00e5fa82e5bb.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/875214c0-affb-463f-9185-06d920a143d8.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/ea7fc44e-a8eb-4a0f-a7a3-7a29ff4e7952.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/70bf93f5-2c6e-4151-96d9-de555d1f0ee5.png) ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/0a493715-1939-415e-a5c5-af638b996e29.png)
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                Those literally look like scam sites. How fucking dumb can cryptobros be???
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                  No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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                  Not originally, but they became the very evil they sought to fight against. Some are still holding onto the good fight, most just see it as a virtual online casino.
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                    Those literally look like scam sites. How fucking dumb can cryptobros be???
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                    Well, they're not. Monerica is just a repository with links and short description of monero accepting businesses and monero related stuff. Xmrbazaar is a p2p craigslist/facebook marketplace/ebay like service that uses monero instead of FIAT. ::: spoiler Example listing ![](https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/9a53da0a-dcc1-4331-873f-5b110a2acb4c.png) :::
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                    • ? Guest
                      I hope that the EU creates a digital currency system that is universal, and for privacy coins to become common. I don't want to deal with American payment processors, because they want to prevent me from supporting the people who make my life better. Payment should be a dumb pipe, allowing me and you to uphold the social contract.
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                      I hope too, but likely will be shut down by the US, for "unfair state meddling with the free market".
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                      • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
                        Dude SWIFT has more financial power and sway than visa and mastercard. They're the folks who manage the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. So if they block you, you are fucked.
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                        >the network that allows bank transfers to happen nigh instantaneously. Ah, so I guess Canada doesn't use them! Haha
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                        • ? Guest
                          This is gold!! I'd love to read more about it!! It's very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
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                          It was pretty wild. I wish I still had the list of visa/MC "no-nos" I mean honestly the US government was more lax. all they wanted was us to ensure we were following the 2257 stuff and documenting all the talent. surprisingly though American Express was a lot more "liberal" with this stuff. guess those dudes were just kinkier.
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                            That is exactly why I don't understand why they have an issue with it. They do not know if someone is using the store to buy porn games. So why care? Their concern should be profit, not national driven policies.
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                            They care because someone could see that it is possible to buy porn games in the steam interface (they could even make screenshots of a steam checkout page with both the name of a porn game and the visa/MasterCard/PayPal logos visible at the same time) and that would RUIN, RUIN I say, their good reputation.. 😑 Because bank's and payment provider do anything to keep their good reputation with the important people... advertisement companies and other Mc Scrounges
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                              No, they were created to facilitate pyramid schemes and scams.
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                              That's true for all non precious metal currencies.
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                                Payment processors don't know which game you bought. That's not the concern. Their concern is that the store they do business with provides services to content they deem inappropriate. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed this much for so long given the past. Why credit card processors are puritans, I have no idea. But MC, Visa and PayPal have historically always been super anti-porn.
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                                They act puritan to help facilitate business in more restricted cultures like China or Vietnam. Allowing everything that is allowed in the most liberal countries wouldn't loose them their marketshare in those countries. Disallowing it though, that opens those foreign markets with minimal negative effect to their processing volume. How many people are going to blame visa for this? Most will just blame Steam who is just conforming to the standards the processors set.
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                                  My VPN, VPS, phone bill, bunch of games, steam points, sms verification services all directly for crypto. I also buy gift cards to grocery stores, takeout delivery apps and the local equivalent of Amazon all for crypto and use them to do most of my shopping. Other things I used it for is donating to foss projects I use and some just for fun penny gambling/predictions. Once I even got paid in crypto for some freelance work I did. If you count the gift cards most of my spending is done in crypto, usually monero.
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                                  Buying gift cards, which are in fiat currency, defeats the whole point lol
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                                    They act puritan to help facilitate business in more restricted cultures like China or Vietnam. Allowing everything that is allowed in the most liberal countries wouldn't loose them their marketshare in those countries. Disallowing it though, that opens those foreign markets with minimal negative effect to their processing volume. How many people are going to blame visa for this? Most will just blame Steam who is just conforming to the standards the processors set.
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                                    Wouldn't that still falls under steam responsibilities? If China doesn't like porn games, they would/should go after steam allowing the sale of such games in their market, not Visa which has no means to know what games you purchased
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                                      ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/3d4d3bb4-67c7-40fd-9458-238f50f665f2.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/18ca679a-096b-45d5-8c80-c92e1a360a84.jpeg) ![](https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/e6f2a7ff-0f8b-450e-9349-7d73de00ac55.jpeg) [Source](https://bsky.app/profile/steamdb.info/post/3lu32vdlsmg27).
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                                      A rare L for Steam. Not exactly their fault, but I wonder what changed that made them start caring.
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                                        Things of questionable moral value have been available for sale for as long as money has existed. It’s not like this is new. Payment processors got into this business knowing perfectly well that some purchases may not align with their moral values. In fact, they’ve been profiting off it for decades. They don’t get to suddenly clutch their pearls _now_. To be clear, I won’t miss the incest games. I just don’t like the precedent this is setting.
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                                        Processors don't even deserve the right to even learn what morals even are. They are business entities, and shouldn't have any rights at all, honestly. They're just there to move money and shouldn't get any say at all in what that means. None. Honestly, (to your last point) fuck anyone who is into that shit in any kind of practical way.(if they wanna goon about it, that's another discussion. But even with adding "step", it's kinda close to that vanta black color on the sunniest day. But if having erotic software keeps them out of their siblings and parents and kids' beds, then more power to em.
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                                          I think a better example would be net neutrality. The whole purpose of the payment provider is to move money from Person A to Person B. Just like how ISP is meant to get you from Website A to Website B. It would be like your ISP going "Woah there buckeroo. You can't go to Duck, Duck Go to search. We only let you go to Google."
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                                          Ahh man, Australia have tried DNS blocking websites via our ISPs however running your own or changing your DNS (on your local machine or your modem if it's not locked down) completely dumpsters this strategy. From memory torrent websites were blocked and some rom / game piracy sites.
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