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Which of the following are “appropriate uses” for an LLM?:

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Which of the following are “appropriate uses” for an LLM?:

    1. Brainstorming a list of titles for a short story.
    2. Translating a product description.
    3. Fixing grammar, spelling and formatting.
    4. Making a list of hotels near a given address.
    5. Checking a solution to statistics homework.
    6. Listing places to eat in a small town that do not serve peanuts, or places that are Kosher
    7. Listing photo editors that include a certain feature.
    8. Making a complaint email sound “less harsh”

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      Which of the following are “appropriate uses” for an LLM?:

      1. Brainstorming a list of titles for a short story.
      2. Translating a product description.
      3. Fixing grammar, spelling and formatting.
      4. Making a list of hotels near a given address.
      5. Checking a solution to statistics homework.
      6. Listing places to eat in a small town that do not serve peanuts, or places that are Kosher
      7. Listing photo editors that include a certain feature.
      8. Making a complaint email sound “less harsh”

      Ben HammondB This user is from outside of this forum
      Ben HammondB This user is from outside of this forum
      Ben Hammond
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      @futurebird

      Maybe 1) brainstorming

      Would not trust it with any of the others

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Which of the following are “appropriate uses” for an LLM?:

        1. Brainstorming a list of titles for a short story.
        2. Translating a product description.
        3. Fixing grammar, spelling and formatting.
        4. Making a list of hotels near a given address.
        5. Checking a solution to statistics homework.
        6. Listing places to eat in a small town that do not serve peanuts, or places that are Kosher
        7. Listing photo editors that include a certain feature.
        8. Making a complaint email sound “less harsh”

        Chris-EvelynC This user is from outside of this forum
        Chris-EvelynC This user is from outside of this forum
        Chris-Evelyn
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        @futurebird Some of those are great and appropriate uses for machine learning or statistical predictive algorithms.

        For an LLM? Maybe 1. if you don't care about the ethical problems.

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        • Chris-EvelynC Chris-Evelyn

          @futurebird Some of those are great and appropriate uses for machine learning or statistical predictive algorithms.

          For an LLM? Maybe 1. if you don't care about the ethical problems.

          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
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          @chris_evelyn

          In this context I don’t I’m just asking where it can be effective.

          My answer is 2 and 8 ONLY. it’s not really effective or could lead to catastrophic errors in all other cases. 3 might be OK too. If you have help.

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            @futurebird

            Maybe 1) brainstorming

            Would not trust it with any of the others

            myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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            myrmepropagandist
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            @benh
            #1 seems innocent enough, but when LLMs create titles, they often recycle well-known and copywritten material. The suggestions are kind of useless and worse they tend to be bland.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @chris_evelyn

              In this context I don’t I’m just asking where it can be effective.

              My answer is 2 and 8 ONLY. it’s not really effective or could lead to catastrophic errors in all other cases. 3 might be OK too. If you have help.

              Chris-EvelynC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @futurebird 2 & 8 can suffer from hallucinations, too, that's why I excluded them - if you aren't able to do the task yourself already, you won't be able to check the outcome thoroughly enough is what I think.

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              • Ben HammondB Ben Hammond

                @futurebird

                Maybe 1) brainstorming

                Would not trust it with any of the others

                sabikS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @benh @futurebird
                @chris_evelyn

                Brainstorming with the help of an LLM has been tested, the results are worse than without

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @chris_evelyn

                  In this context I don’t I’m just asking where it can be effective.

                  My answer is 2 and 8 ONLY. it’s not really effective or could lead to catastrophic errors in all other cases. 3 might be OK too. If you have help.

                  Ben HammondB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Ben Hammond
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                  @futurebird @chris_evelyn

                  Why would you want a complaint email to be less harsh? Wouldn't that just water down what you need to say?

                  As I get older (And morph into a grumpy old git) I value clarity over politeness.

                  Too many misunderstanding arise because we are afraid to say what we mean

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                  • sabikS sabik

                    @benh @futurebird
                    @chris_evelyn

                    Brainstorming with the help of an LLM has been tested, the results are worse than without

                    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
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                    @sabik @benh @chris_evelyn

                    I have tried to have it give me title suggestions and the results are so basic, bland and unaware of connotations in the most unhelpful way I’m worried I won’t ever be able to pick a good title now because it’s poisoned me like some kind of anti-matter for creativity. Like it’s negated the creative spark through sheer force of boringness.

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                    • Ben HammondB Ben Hammond

                      @futurebird @chris_evelyn

                      Why would you want a complaint email to be less harsh? Wouldn't that just water down what you need to say?

                      As I get older (And morph into a grumpy old git) I value clarity over politeness.

                      Too many misunderstanding arise because we are afraid to say what we mean

                      NoodlemazN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @benh @futurebird @chris_evelyn I have a friend who uses it to rewrite their emails because as an autistic person, they don't like people's reactions to their directness.

                      I would argue that's a societal problem and one of ableism, and continuing to mask through 'toning down' just perpetuates the problem for all of us.

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                      • Chris-EvelynC Chris-Evelyn

                        @futurebird 2 & 8 can suffer from hallucinations, too, that's why I excluded them - if you aren't able to do the task yourself already, you won't be able to check the outcome thoroughly enough is what I think.

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                        @chris_evelyn @futurebird Especially for a second language, Number 8 is great stuff. Also 2 to get a bit further if needed. For 1 - no, but for project acronyms? Excellent stuff because triteness and trivialism is essential, the opposite of creative writing.

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                        • NoodlemazN Noodlemaz

                          @benh @futurebird @chris_evelyn I have a friend who uses it to rewrite their emails because as an autistic person, they don't like people's reactions to their directness.

                          I would argue that's a societal problem and one of ableism, and continuing to mask through 'toning down' just perpetuates the problem for all of us.

                          Chris-EvelynC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @noodlemaz @benh @futurebird But how does your friend know that the rewritten email has the right tone?

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                          • Markus OjalaM Markus Ojala

                            @chris_evelyn @futurebird Especially for a second language, Number 8 is great stuff. Also 2 to get a bit further if needed. For 1 - no, but for project acronyms? Excellent stuff because triteness and trivialism is essential, the opposite of creative writing.

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                            @mojala @chris_evelyn

                            This is a fair point it would probably be good for something like a course title where you want it to be similar to the titles of other courses doing the same thing. It very good at erasing the unexpected or unusual. And that’s what you want for things like spelling.

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                            • Chris-EvelynC Chris-Evelyn

                              @noodlemaz @benh @futurebird But how does your friend know that the rewritten email has the right tone?

                              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @chris_evelyn @noodlemaz @benh

                              You read it and see if it’s better. It is difficult to write in a polite tone if you don’t feel very polite.

                              I don’t agree that it’s good for those working in a second language without confidence- it will probably be very transparent that it isn’t your own voice (though there are cases where this might not matter)

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                Which of the following are “appropriate uses” for an LLM?:

                                1. Brainstorming a list of titles for a short story.
                                2. Translating a product description.
                                3. Fixing grammar, spelling and formatting.
                                4. Making a list of hotels near a given address.
                                5. Checking a solution to statistics homework.
                                6. Listing places to eat in a small town that do not serve peanuts, or places that are Kosher
                                7. Listing photo editors that include a certain feature.
                                8. Making a complaint email sound “less harsh”

                                llewellyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @futurebird a decade ago I'd have said translation and making an email less harsh were the only appropriate uses.

                                Now, I feel even those two are a lot like using an SUV to commute to work. It might seem normal and comforting, but it's horrible for society and for the environment.

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