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Gabe Newell caps off Steam Machine week by taking delivery of a new $500 million superyacht with a submarine garage, on-board hospital and 15 gaming PCs

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    A billionaire whose hobby is Marine conservation. That yacht is a floating lab. Inkfish, founded by Gabe Newell, aims to advance marine science by providing tools and access for deep-ocean exploration, focusing on serving the scientific community rather than personal interests. The organization's mission is to integrate marine science, engineering, and technology to map uncharted seafloor, study biodiversity, discover new species, and protect ocean ecosystems, while also providing open-source data and technical support to scientists
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    This yacht is many things, one of them being a floating lab. It's not like it isn't a super-luxury yacht for $500 million, also. Or like he hasn't a couple more super-yachts. I mean, good for the man, good that he's doing marine conservation on the side, or that he actually cares about his companies, employees, etc. But also, wow, what kind of amounts do billionaires spend on playthings, and what you could do with such money for the betterment of society.
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      Why? It's still bad. He still isn't taking societal input on whether the projects he invests his money into are actually the most wise and sound investments to help the future of all living humans. It's a distinction without a difference.
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      sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      Why does he need society's input? Last I checked, charities didn't ask society at large, they just get funding from the people who care. Am I wrong to go to the park to pick up litter without asking society at large if that's the best use of my time? We don't need to have everything go through a committee. If he wants to do a good thing, that's awesome.
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        I think the line to never have to work again is pretty far under $100mil
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        Depending on where one lives and how lavish they want to live, 1mil USD at 4% interest is enough to make a life on. That's what my financial advisor tells me and I think it's more than reasonable.
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          that moment when the One Good Billionaire™ casually orders a boat that costs several times more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes 🙃 i get that there's worse out there but i'm tired of people acting like newell is a saint... he's just another billionaire.
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          I don't think anyone thinks he's a saint, despite the memes. Except if you compare him to the fucking sleazeballs at companies like Epic, Rockstar, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard, etc. etc., not to mention every other publicly traded corporation, he kind of his. Again, **by comparison**. He single-handedly improves the entire industry. He could very well have developed a locked down Steam OS that won't do anything but play games but he instead invested in an open source platform that sorely needed it, and makes the world a better place. Steam doesn't have to put up big banners for Denuvo or AI or games that require a remote account but they do, purely for the benefit of the users.
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            Depending on where one lives and how lavish they want to live, 1mil USD at 4% interest is enough to make a life on. That's what my financial advisor tells me and I think it's more than reasonable.
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            Yes, but I think inflation quickly makes that a pretty low number.
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              Personally, if I had GabeN money to spend on a yacht, I would commission something similar to S/S Delphine, S/S Norrskär or / S/S Storskär, I love the classic lines of a late 1800s, early 1900s small ship. Modern yachts/ships look so boring...
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              If I were a billionaire I would buy an old ass ship (forgive me IDK much about naval history) like an ironclad, retrofit it with a nuclear reactor and then full horsepower it through a yacht yard
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              • theneverfox@pawb.socialT theneverfox@pawb.social
                Alternatively, it's a luxury yacht for small teams of passionate scientists to keep them happy and comfortable for long periods, and also a floating town for Gabe to live in Also, if you want to criticize it there's one implication that worries me... Part of the concept is that this yacht will be a floating lab that can pick up and move to avoid regulations
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                >there's one implication that worries me Well, _two_ implications ![](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/the-implication-always-sunny.jpg)
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                  I think the underpaying would be not having nearly as many employees as similar sized companies. They could have several divisions producing games while also developing their hardware and software. He has been happy to make changes at a slower pace while their store keeps taking large cuts of each sale.
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                  overload@sopuli.xyz
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                  I suppose so, but maybe they don't want to grow too large. Microsoft absolutely devouring studios the last few years has not produced any truly great games. Valve clearly know how to make a good game still, when they want to.
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                    Erik Wolpaw, who wrote Portal, was absolutely a Valve employee by that time already though, and *very arguably* the writing is what made the game so special. The team developing it wouldn't have had Wolpaw as a pull for a writer without being acquired by Valve.
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                    overload@sopuli.xyz
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                    Well, I agree that the writing is really good. But the gameplay hook is what really makes it a great game tome.
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                      30% is too much! Clearly Steam doesn't need that much to operate (the percentage of each sale that go to Valve)
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                        that moment when the One Good Billionaire™ casually orders a boat that costs several times more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes 🙃 i get that there's worse out there but i'm tired of people acting like newell is a saint... he's just another billionaire.
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                        Tbf gabe has been pushing for ocean exploration for a long time since we barely know our oceans and he has the money to fund that. Very cool stuff normal people can't do.
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                          Tbf gabe has been pushing for ocean exploration for a long time since we barely know our oceans and he has the money to fund that. Very cool stuff normal people can't do.
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                          brkdncr@lemmy.world
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                          The governments of normal people could be doing it but the money is going to billionaires instead.
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                            >Like being able to return games? That was to comply with an Australian law, and it was just easier to implement it for everyone than just do it for Australia specifically. Well you say that but Sony also has an online game marketplace that operates in Australia. I don’t know how it works in Australia, but in the U.S. their return policy is not nearly as generous as Steam’s. In fact it Sony’s return policy only really exists on paper. In reality they don’t really do returns at all.
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                            I agree, it's easier to do it worldwide, but that doesn't stop companies from writing extra code to comply with local restrictions only locally. Look at all the US companies where their websites function differently if you are in california or not. It was a law, but they were by no means forced to be good about it and let everyone in the world benefit.
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                              I agree mostly, but Valve employees are reportedly paid an incredible amount of money compared to the market average, so underpaying would probably only refer to the hefty (but industry standard) 30% cut of game sales they take from game publishers.
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                              I've been told over and over again that Valve *needs* that 30% and they can't possibly do all that they do with a lower margin. Clearly hosting some files, hosting a forum, processing payments, etc is about ONE THIRD of all the talent and effort that goes into creating a game.
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                                While all that is indeed good, we shouldn't *have to* rely on the benevolence of the wealthy to be able to have a better world. No offense, but that kind of stuff should be paid for by *taxation.* He is doing some good here, but it's also his pet project, his choice where the money goes, no one else, no input from society at large. It's still overall not a real great thing, because it means that we have to just *hope* that billionaires have pet projects that help society and the earth at large.
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                                The situation sucks, but I guess we have to count our "wins" these days. If this money he is using to advance marine science was taxed, I guarantee it would be given straight to the US Military for creating more weapons of mass destruction. A lot of things need to change in this world.
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                                  Whether the concept of billionaires is bad is irrelevant when deciding whether one specific billionaire is bad.
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                                  It seems really really relevant though...
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                                    I think the underpaying would be not having nearly as many employees as similar sized companies. They could have several divisions producing games while also developing their hardware and software. He has been happy to make changes at a slower pace while their store keeps taking large cuts of each sale.
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                                    More developers doesn't always means faster shipping of products, but it can lead to disconnected and soulless releases. Valve only release something new when it makes sense to or they have an innovation that means it makes sense to. They don't really work at a slow pace in my opinion, it's just you may not always see constant changes in one part of their products all the time because of how the engineers work (freedom to work on whatever). Probably for the best they aren't hiring thousands of people to pump out random stuff that is only there to make money. They make stuff that makes sense.
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                                      that moment when the One Good Billionaire™ casually orders a boat that costs several times more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes 🙃 i get that there's worse out there but i'm tired of people acting like newell is a saint... he's just another billionaire.
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                                      Refreshing to hear this take. Valve and Gabe get glazed so hard when at the end of the day it's about the bottom dollar for them too. Honestly I think people love them so much because everyone else has been horrible by comparison.
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                                        People need to remember a lot of the pro-consumer things that Valve has ever done were things they were forced to by regulation. Like being able to return games? That was to comply with an Australian law, and it was just *easier* to implement it for everyone than just do it for Australia specifically.
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                                        ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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                                        I think we're just at a point where a company not constantly trying to find ways to squirm out of every single thing is a breath of fresh air. "Hi! We're valve. We're mostly following the law without fuss, mostly make money by getting people to buy things they want, and our excessively wealthy owner acts like a preposterously rich person, not a comic book villain: Fantasizing about living his life isn't deeply concerning. The hardware we sell isn't deliberately worse for consumers to no benefit to ourselves" -- Hands down one of the best "big" companies out there.
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                                          Fucking disgusting. There's no way to be a billionaire while not being a total shitstain that just sucks the society dry.
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