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After Its Disastrous Launch, Cities: Skylines 2 Changes Developers

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    I've heard of developers choosing to make new games, but I didn't know games could choose to be made by new developers! Inspiring!
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    KSP2 comes to mind
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      Not surprising at all. I found a copy of the game online because I wanted to try it out before I considered buying it (I had a feeling I wouldn't like it). I got maybe an hour of playtime before I stopped playing. The new pretty skin doesn't do enough to make the game worth it.
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        I guess the console version will never become a thing then
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          I feel sorry for colossal order. They're clearly some very passionate people who's dreams have been ruined by their own executives and paradox.
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            I feel sorry for colossal order. They're clearly some very passionate people who's dreams have been ruined by their own executives and paradox.
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            We'll have to wait and see. They aren't shutting down, they're parting with Paradox, and hence the Cities IP. It's possible this will set them free to pursue something that'll allow that passion go shine through even brighter.
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              Not surprising at all. I found a copy of the game online because I wanted to try it out before I considered buying it (I had a feeling I wouldn't like it). I got maybe an hour of playtime before I stopped playing. The new pretty skin doesn't do enough to make the game worth it.
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              I dont know why they chose to chase graphics, it wasnt important for the first game, it wasnt going to be important for the second. I suppose it could have been Paradox controlling decisions. We just wanted more systems and simulations. I hope that CO can move on and make some great games.
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                Iceflake Studio's portfolio does not exactly inspire confidence, feels like this is the end of city skylines. What a shame.
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                Oh wow. They are way out of their depth here. Best of luck to them, I’m expecting a shallow mobile game in the future.
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                  I’d love to see a Cities game that focuses on framework and provides a way for micro transactions to pay out mod developers.
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                    They didn't chase graphics. Yeah the lighting system is better and the Civs having over 1000 polys is overkill for something you're gonna focus on for 0.1% of playtime. CO failed by choosing an architecture that was not ready for production use. There was a few devlogs where they straight up said they were using pre-release versions of Unity that were half baked to develop CS2. They were testing some technology Unity was supposed to release in the future. Because of that they had to write a bunch of tools FOR UNITY themselves. In doing so they couldn't get ahead of technical problems that kept popping up because it meant they had to fuck with Unity(the software and the company) more and more. The biggest example of this is the asset importer. Why in a video game built with modding in mind does this game have not have an asset importer almost 3 years later? Why did it take 2 years to release a DLC that was supposed to be out in the first 6 months? Why did it take 2 years to "fix" the economy part of the sim? They're never gonna fix the busted ass traffic. CO built this game on a half built foundation and they've been paying for it since day 1.
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                      The size of their staff going from 1 to 2 made no sense to me with how much grander scale of a simulation they spoke of. It seemed unrealistic before launch and to this day they still seem to be struggling with it. Really screwed the pooch. Paradox for being penny pinchers for what could have become their Civilization in regards to beloved hyper geeky but high selling type of game. Colossal Order for not growing up and then trying to play off criticisms with how they're a hunky dory scrappy small indie developer that can't staff up for the AAA scope sequel of a hit of a game with major amounts of DLC. Self infantalization are for your early 20s
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                        Iceflake Studio's portfolio does not exactly inspire confidence, feels like this is the end of city skylines. What a shame.
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                        Oh they made Surviving the Aftermath? Nah, they’ll do fine, that means they’ll be working closely with Paradox again.
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                          They didn't chase graphics. Yeah the lighting system is better and the Civs having over 1000 polys is overkill for something you're gonna focus on for 0.1% of playtime. CO failed by choosing an architecture that was not ready for production use. There was a few devlogs where they straight up said they were using pre-release versions of Unity that were half baked to develop CS2. They were testing some technology Unity was supposed to release in the future. Because of that they had to write a bunch of tools FOR UNITY themselves. In doing so they couldn't get ahead of technical problems that kept popping up because it meant they had to fuck with Unity(the software and the company) more and more. The biggest example of this is the asset importer. Why in a video game built with modding in mind does this game have not have an asset importer almost 3 years later? Why did it take 2 years to release a DLC that was supposed to be out in the first 6 months? Why did it take 2 years to "fix" the economy part of the sim? They're never gonna fix the busted ass traffic. CO built this game on a half built foundation and they've been paying for it since day 1.
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                          Because they basically had to rewrite the entire game after Unity pulled the rug out from underneath them.
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                            Enshittification comes for us all. But we'll always have the OG. Great thing about a good game is that it doesn't go away because of a bad sequel.
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                            I can't play CS1 after playing CS2
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                              I can't play CS1 after playing CS2
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                              Sounds like a skills issue.
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                                I've heard of developers choosing to make new games, but I didn't know games could choose to be made by new developers! Inspiring!
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                                > I didn’t know games could choose to be made by new developers No, game's aren't alive and cannot choose anything. The higher-ups at publisher and IP owner Paradox Interactive can, however. Usually these things happen at Microsoft when they shut down studios, like what happened with Essemble Studios (Age of Empires, Halo Wars) and Double Helix Games (Killer Instinct).
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                                  They didn't chase graphics. Yeah the lighting system is better and the Civs having over 1000 polys is overkill for something you're gonna focus on for 0.1% of playtime. CO failed by choosing an architecture that was not ready for production use. There was a few devlogs where they straight up said they were using pre-release versions of Unity that were half baked to develop CS2. They were testing some technology Unity was supposed to release in the future. Because of that they had to write a bunch of tools FOR UNITY themselves. In doing so they couldn't get ahead of technical problems that kept popping up because it meant they had to fuck with Unity(the software and the company) more and more. The biggest example of this is the asset importer. Why in a video game built with modding in mind does this game have not have an asset importer almost 3 years later? Why did it take 2 years to release a DLC that was supposed to be out in the first 6 months? Why did it take 2 years to "fix" the economy part of the sim? They're never gonna fix the busted ass traffic. CO built this game on a half built foundation and they've been paying for it since day 1.
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                                  Fair enough. Seems like my hope for them is slim, I was expecting similar corporate practices anyway, but seems they have bigger problems with development decision making.
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                                    Yeah, the hope for this game died when they released that development documentary and the CEO of CO blamed Unity for causing all sorts of problems. It was an incredible act of transparency that ultimately sealed the fate of this game to never living up to the standards of the first. Citystate Metropolis is our next hope for the genre.
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                                      The size of their staff going from 1 to 2 made no sense to me with how much grander scale of a simulation they spoke of. It seemed unrealistic before launch and to this day they still seem to be struggling with it. Really screwed the pooch. Paradox for being penny pinchers for what could have become their Civilization in regards to beloved hyper geeky but high selling type of game. Colossal Order for not growing up and then trying to play off criticisms with how they're a hunky dory scrappy small indie developer that can't staff up for the AAA scope sequel of a hit of a game with major amounts of DLC. Self infantalization are for your early 20s
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                                      Your statement made very little sense at first read. Took me a minute to figure out you're probably being censored. > Really screwed the pooch. Paradox for being penny pinchers for what could have become their Civilization in regards to beloved hyper geeky but high selling type of game. Colossal Order for not growing up and then trying to play off criticisms with how they're a hunky dory scrappy small indie developer that can't staff up for the AAA scope sequel of a hit of a game with major amounts of DLC. Self infantalization are for your early 20s
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                                        We'll have to wait and see. They aren't shutting down, they're parting with Paradox, and hence the Cities IP. It's possible this will set them free to pursue something that'll allow that passion go shine through even brighter.
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                                        Hopefully. Their potential is impressive.
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                                          This does look quite bad. What a shame, I bought the game at lunch and it was buggy and unstable. I assumed it will be improved and fixed over the next years. When I tried it a few months ago it had most of the same flaws including instabilities which are a deal breaker for this kind of game. And now they essentially killed it.
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