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"It's extremely frustrating and also f*cked up" - one of the world's best indie studios is facing shock closure following confounding Steam ban
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> In the early build reviewed by Valve, day six featured a scene in which a man and his young daughter visit the farm. The daughter wants to ride one of the horses, resulting in an interactive dialogue sequence where the girl rides on the shoulders of a naked "horse" while it's led by the player. Young girl interacts with naked man and you saw no problem with it... > "The scene is not sexual in any way," Maybe not to you but that doesn't change the content of what you submitted to Valve. > the young character was changed into a twenty-something woman. "Both to avoid the juxtaposition," it explains, "and more importantly because the dialogue delivered in that scene, which deals with the societal structure in the world of Horses, works much better when delivered by an older character." Cool, the review build still featured a young girl riding a naked man and you thought that was a great idea...
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> Feels like some key piece of information is omitted here tbh You mean the key information im the middle of the article that I quoted in a comment 15 minutes before yours?
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> moralists see nudity and think it can only represent sex - meanwhile, by the screenshots, it represents dehumanization. Except in the review build submitted to Valve there was a young child riding that naked man.
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> moralists see nudity and think it can only represent sex - meanwhile, by the screenshots, it represents dehumanization. Except in the review build submitted to Valve there was a young child riding that naked man.
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That's no exception at all. "moralists see nudity and think it can only represent sex" clearly defines it.On another note, I remember some time ago reading a forum where people were discussing how to explain to their children that scene from My Neighbor Totoro where the father takes a bath with the daughters, and how that scene wasn’t appropriate for children or something like that… culture shock.
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This post did not contain any content.> one of the world's best indie studios Never heard of them, nothing of value lost
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> one of the world's best indie studios Never heard of them, nothing of value lost> Never heard of them, nothing of value lost Me neither but popular doesn't necessarily good or unknown doesn't mean bad but to first come up with a scene of a young girl riding a naked man, then to model this, and in al that time not thinking that this depiction is seriously fucked up (they only changed this scene later because the scene “works much better when delivered by an older character.”
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> Never heard of them, nothing of value lost Me neither but popular doesn't necessarily good or unknown doesn't mean bad but to first come up with a scene of a young girl riding a naked man, then to model this, and in al that time not thinking that this depiction is seriously fucked up (they only changed this scene later because the scene “works much better when delivered by an older character.”> world's best LOL sure being unknown doesn't mean bad. It _does_ mean not one of the world's best, though.
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That's no exception at all. "moralists see nudity and think it can only represent sex" clearly defines it.
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I have definitely noticed an uptick in the number of articles attacking Steam. I find all of them to be a little over blown.Valve hate is very fashionable right now. Get ready to hear endless moaning over the Steam Machine from people who never would have bought it regardless.
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That's no exception at all. "moralists see nudity and think it can only represent sex" clearly defines it.https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ponyplay oops, its literally a sex thing
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> Feels like some key piece of information is omitted here tbh You mean the key information im the middle of the article that I quoted in a comment 15 minutes before yours?No, that sounds like moral panic bullshit. If the naked man is not in a sexual at all context because it's straight up treating them as horses the whole game to be surrealist or whatever, and the kid was fully clothed, then I honestly don't see what the big deal is. Perhaps it was worse than described, or maybe... There is something we don't know
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I have to disagree to be honest. Not because I think that they should allow a naked guy with a young girl(gross), but because in the time that it took for steam to review the game and give a verdict, they had already changed it on their own to be a different model. For them to refuse re-submission of the game is pretty dumb, considering that the offending content(if that is what it was) had already been fixed in the release build and steam was operating under old information. If they haden't already changed it for the release candidate I would be fully on board, but clearly they saw wrong in it as well which was why they had changed it prior to steams decision. Steam forced an early release build of the game way earlier than they normally asked for, which meant it was exactly that, a pre-release build, meaning it had not gone through the proper channels for vetting or checking to make sure that what they wanted to publish was a final product. Then when requested for a review of the actual final build, steam refused. This combined with the fact that the only storefront that blocked the release was steam, I definitely think steam is the bad guy here.
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On another note, I remember some time ago reading a forum where people were discussing how to explain to their children that scene from My Neighbor Totoro where the father takes a bath with the daughters, and how that scene wasn’t appropriate for children or something like that… culture shock.
