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Just got an new ant guide "Ants of Britain and Europe"

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    I want to say a little bit about insect field guides and languages. Although, I think this applies for any kind of field guide for plants, rocks, birds anything...

    It's very hard to find good field guides in multiple languages, even in a spamy language like English or French. Guides tend to be localized.

    There are whole shelves of ant books that haven't been translated and I can't read them and it drives me nuts.

    I mean it makes sense, but I want all of them.

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    The same is true for origami books but you don't need to be able to read to get a lot out of those.

    But, there are still whole seas of information hidden behind language barriers. I guess translating field guides isn't lucrative?

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      @sewblue @catmisgivings

      OMG I wonder if there is a NYC one. There is an audience for such things. I always wonder about the various rocks and cuts I see.

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      @futurebird @sewblue @catmisgivings

      I have another book in the series but it appears New York state has one.

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      Roadside geology of New York : VanDiver, Bradford B : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

      x, 397 p. : 23 cm

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        The same is true for origami books but you don't need to be able to read to get a lot out of those.

        But, there are still whole seas of information hidden behind language barriers. I guess translating field guides isn't lucrative?

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        It's one of those things that you kind of assume exists. Of course I can find a book on "The Ants of Major Country/Region" but ... no maybe you can't. At least not one that isn't from 1919 with no photos.

        "The Ants of Borneo" Is full of tempting leads, but it's so old many of the names have changed and some of the ants only have one or two words about them.

        Granted there are about 16,000 species of ants. STILL.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          @sewblue @catmisgivings

          OMG I wonder if there is a NYC one. There is an audience for such things. I always wonder about the various rocks and cuts I see.

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          @futurebird @sewblue @catmisgivings

          The Roadside Geology series only covers the United States by state - except that California gets two books, because it has a lot of geology and also a lot of roads (Alaska only gets one) : https://mountain-press.com/collections/roadside-geology .

          But the AMNH has published some guide books for NYC in particular. Some examples:

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          The geology of New York City and environs : Schuberth, Christopher J : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

          xiv, 304 p. 24 cm

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          https://www.amnh.org/content/download/399072/5846346/file/teachers-guide.pdf

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          • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

            @futurebird @sewblue @catmisgivings

            The Roadside Geology series only covers the United States by state - except that California gets two books, because it has a lot of geology and also a lot of roads (Alaska only gets one) : https://mountain-press.com/collections/roadside-geology .

            But the AMNH has published some guide books for NYC in particular. Some examples:

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            The geology of New York City and environs : Schuberth, Christopher J : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

            xiv, 304 p. 24 cm

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            Internet Archive (archive.org)

            https://www.amnh.org/content/download/399072/5846346/file/teachers-guide.pdf

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            @michael_w_busch @futurebird @catmisgivings This is the most Mastodon pile on I've ever seen. People very excited over geology books!

            For the record - this is the book with the 50 point process for determining mineral types.

            The Roadside book I have has better maps, but the Sierras book is better on the science. Crazy fun fact - the west side of the Sierras has an average 2% grade. It's tough mainly because of crazy river and glacier valleys (Yosemite!). The back side of the Sierras has a whopping average 25% grade.

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              @michael_w_busch @futurebird @catmisgivings This is the most Mastodon pile on I've ever seen. People very excited over geology books!

              For the record - this is the book with the 50 point process for determining mineral types.

              The Roadside book I have has better maps, but the Sierras book is better on the science. Crazy fun fact - the west side of the Sierras has an average 2% grade. It's tough mainly because of crazy river and glacier valleys (Yosemite!). The back side of the Sierras has a whopping average 25% grade.

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              @sewblue @michael_w_busch @futurebird @catmisgivings The volume in the same series on the geology of the San Francisco Bay Area is also really good: https://www.ucpress.edu/books/geology-of-the-san-francisco-bay-region/paper

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                Just got an new ant guide "Ants of Britain and Europe"

                ...

                ...

                did ya'll brexit the ANTS too???

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                @futurebird I've noticed most "birds/mammals/trees of North America" type books often leave out Mexico and Greenland, which doesn't make any biogeographical sense at all.

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                  @sewblue @michael_w_busch @futurebird @catmisgivings The volume in the same series on the geology of the San Francisco Bay Area is also really good: https://www.ucpress.edu/books/geology-of-the-san-francisco-bay-region/paper

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                  @jmccyoung @michael_w_busch @futurebird @catmisgivings have your read this one? It was hard to get a copy for a while.

                  (I am not exactly sure how geology books have multiplied like mushrooms on my bookshelves)

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Nonetheless a top notch field guide with lots of photos, helpful tips on how to tell the ants apart.

                    Yes. I read field guides sometimes. What are you going to do about it? It's like a catalog of interesting ants I might meet someday if I ever travel over there.

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                    @futurebird Do you have a recommendation for ants of the mid-Atlantic?

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      It's one of those things that you kind of assume exists. Of course I can find a book on "The Ants of Major Country/Region" but ... no maybe you can't. At least not one that isn't from 1919 with no photos.

                      "The Ants of Borneo" Is full of tempting leads, but it's so old many of the names have changed and some of the ants only have one or two words about them.

                      Granted there are about 16,000 species of ants. STILL.

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                      @futurebird

                      The old "Vampire: the Masquerade" role-playing game used to have setting supplements that were called like "New York by Night" or "Los Angeles by Night".

                      I'm just imagining an myrmecological equivalent series, all titled something like "Delmarva by Pheromone Trail".

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        I want to say a little bit about insect field guides and languages. Although, I think this applies for any kind of field guide for plants, rocks, birds anything...

                        It's very hard to find good field guides in multiple languages, even in a spamy language like English or French. Guides tend to be localized.

                        There are whole shelves of ant books that haven't been translated and I can't read them and it drives me nuts.

                        I mean it makes sense, but I want all of them.

                        Link Preview Image
                        Ecological Illustrated of Common Ant Species from China [Chinese]

                        Buy Ecological Illustrated of Common Ant Species from China [Chinese] (9787534996979): NHBS - Zhou Shanyi, Henan Science and Technology Publishing House

                        favicon

                        (www.nhbs.com)

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                        @futurebird I have lots of red ant colonies on my allotment and they are enjoying stinging me this year, was reading this paper about their venom and wow there was me thinking it was a simple toxin

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                        Venomics of the Central European Myrmicine Ants Myrmica rubra and Myrmica ruginodis

                        Animal venoms are a rich source of novel biomolecules with potential applications in medicine and agriculture. Ants are one of the most species-rich lineages of venomous animals. However, only a fraction of their biodiversity has been studied so far. Here, we investigated the venom components of two myrmicine (subfamily Myrmicinae) ants: Myrmica rubra and Myrmica ruginodis. We applied a venomics workflow based on proteotranscriptomics and found that the venoms of both species are composed of several protein classes, including venom serine proteases, cysteine-rich secretory protein, antigen 5 and pathogenesis-related 1 (CAP) superfamily proteins, Kunitz-type serine protease inhibitors and venom acid phosphatases. Several of these protein classes are known venom allergens, and for the first time we detected phospholipase A1 in the venom of M. ruginodis. We also identified two novel epidermal growth factor (EGF) family toxins in the M. ruginodis venom proteome and an array of additional EGF-like toxins in the venom gland transcriptomes of both species. These are similar to known toxins from the related myrmicine ant, Manica rubida, and the myrmecine (subfamily Myrmeciinae) Australian red bulldog ant Myrmecia gullosa, and are possibly deployed as weapons in defensive scenarios or to subdue prey. Our work suggests that M.rubra and M. ruginodis venoms contain many enzymes and other high-molecular-weight proteins that cause cell damage. Nevertheless, the presence of EGF-like toxins suggests that myrmicine ants have also recruited smaller peptide components into their venom arsenal. Although little is known about the bioactivity and function of EGF-like toxins, their presence in myrmicine and myrmecine ants suggests they play a key role in the venom systems of the superfamily Formicoidea. Our work adds to the emerging picture of ant venoms as a source of novel bioactive molecules and highlights the need to incorporate such taxa in future venom bioprospecting programs.

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                        • Climate Jenny 2.1C Climate Jenny 2.1

                          @futurebird Do you have a recommendation for ants of the mid-Atlantic?

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                          @ClimateJenny

                          Do you mean like ... Ants in Barbados and Iceland??

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            @ClimateJenny

                            Do you mean like ... Ants in Barbados and Iceland??

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                            @futurebird Hee hee, nope, mid-Atlantic US. Sorry, I'm a novice.

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                            • Climate Jenny 2.1C Climate Jenny 2.1

                              @futurebird Hee hee, nope, mid-Atlantic US. Sorry, I'm a novice.

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                              @ClimateJenny

                              What state? There are a lot of ecologies in that region and I haven't seen a book that looks as a whole.

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                @ClimateJenny

                                What state? There are a lot of ecologies in that region and I haven't seen a book that looks as a whole.

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                                @futurebird Personally I’m interested in the Northern Virginia coastal plain, but it interlaces a bit with piedmont. It’s messy.

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                                • Climate Jenny 2.1C Climate Jenny 2.1

                                  @futurebird Personally I’m interested in the Northern Virginia coastal plain, but it interlaces a bit with piedmont. It’s messy.

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                                  @ClimateJenny

                                  There are two books:

                                  the ants of New England
                                  This is the best field guide on US and Canada ants, although it's about "new England" many of your local ants will be in this book.

                                  "Ants of North America" is a more general guide, not as much detail, but still high quality.

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