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Chebucto Regional Softball Club

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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

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    Unrelated... what is with the Bible and the number 40?

    40 years of this, 40 days and nights of that. When things happen for a long time it's 40 units of time.

    hmmm

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      Unrelated... what is with the Bible and the number 40?

      40 years of this, 40 days and nights of that. When things happen for a long time it's 40 units of time.

      hmmm

      Darac MarjalD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird ISTR it's a mistranslation of "many".

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Unrelated... what is with the Bible and the number 40?

        40 years of this, 40 days and nights of that. When things happen for a long time it's 40 units of time.

        hmmm

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        @futurebird somewhere (not sure which step of the process) "40" was used to represent "an arbitrary large quantity". if you want more time than 40 days you go to 7 years, then eventually on to 7 generations. Harm against Cain would come back sevenfold against the perpetrator.

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          Unrelated... what is with the Bible and the number 40?

          40 years of this, 40 days and nights of that. When things happen for a long time it's 40 units of time.

          hmmm

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          @futurebird From a bajillion old testament lessons (so, kinda suspect) I remember ancient Israelite use of numbers was often symbolic, and it's thought that the symbolism was generally shared by people within the time x culture. 40 was sometimes used to indicate "lots" but, as someone else ITT said, probably a specific spin on "lots."

          Other stuff I remember (again, no idea if this is legit):

          3, 7, and 12 were generally good. They indicated completion and maybe power (?).

          6 was (at least sometimes) bad. One explanation was "almost a holy/complete number, but falling short and therefore worse than if it hadn't even tried." I heard it used in parallel with the story of Lucifer challenging God's authority and being cast out of heaven: he was almost-god, which turned out to be far worse than your basic not-god.

          The counting system was (at least sometimes?) base 60(ish; hence compasses and clocks), and many of the important or notable numbers were multiples of 20, 12, 3, and/or 60, maybe like we sometimes default to describing things in multiples of 5 or 10.

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            @futurebird ISTR it's a mistranslation of "many".

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            @darac @futurebird
            This reminds me of discworld's trolls:

            ‘Everyone knows trolls can’t even count up to four!’* *In fact, trolls traditionally count like this: one, two, three, many, and people assume this means they can have no grasp of higher numbers. They don’t realise that many can BE a number. As in: one, two, three, many, many-one, many-two, many-three, many many, many-many-one, many-many-two, many-many-three, many many many, many-many-many-one, many-many-many-two, many-many-three, LOTS.

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              @futurebird From a bajillion old testament lessons (so, kinda suspect) I remember ancient Israelite use of numbers was often symbolic, and it's thought that the symbolism was generally shared by people within the time x culture. 40 was sometimes used to indicate "lots" but, as someone else ITT said, probably a specific spin on "lots."

              Other stuff I remember (again, no idea if this is legit):

              3, 7, and 12 were generally good. They indicated completion and maybe power (?).

              6 was (at least sometimes) bad. One explanation was "almost a holy/complete number, but falling short and therefore worse than if it hadn't even tried." I heard it used in parallel with the story of Lucifer challenging God's authority and being cast out of heaven: he was almost-god, which turned out to be far worse than your basic not-god.

              The counting system was (at least sometimes?) base 60(ish; hence compasses and clocks), and many of the important or notable numbers were multiples of 20, 12, 3, and/or 60, maybe like we sometimes default to describing things in multiples of 5 or 10.

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              @guyjantic
              Hebrew numbers are basically* base 10. The Assyrians and Babylonians used a system which they inherited from the Sumerians, which is base 60 with a subbase of 10. That is, there are specific words and symbols for 1, 10, and 60, with other numbers represented by combinations of those. There is also a placeholder symbol used to indicate that a space does not gave a value in it, a sort of proto-0.

              Relevant Numberphile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR3zzQP3bII
              @futurebird

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                @guyjantic
                Hebrew numbers are basically* base 10. The Assyrians and Babylonians used a system which they inherited from the Sumerians, which is base 60 with a subbase of 10. That is, there are specific words and symbols for 1, 10, and 60, with other numbers represented by combinations of those. There is also a placeholder symbol used to indicate that a space does not gave a value in it, a sort of proto-0.

                Relevant Numberphile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR3zzQP3bII
                @futurebird

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                @Infrapink @guyjantic

                I didn't know they did a video on this! May show it to my students who I just forced to learn this system (they loved decoding the tablet... it's such a good feeling to get meaning out of something so old.)

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