Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird I've certainly seen claims that the natural resources are the significant thing (e.g. https://theconversation.com/greenland-is-rich-in-natural-resources-a-geologist-explains-why-273022), though I doubt it's quite so simple as having just one reason
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird apparently there are a lot of unexploited natural resources there
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.
I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.
But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird
In the next 20 years, due to climate change, Greenland will become an interesting place, because:
a) everything will be warmer and
b) it's easier to physically defend from "immigrants" and e.g. the US or EuropeAnd since I believe that the US wants to cool the planet temporary using nuclear explosions in South America or Africa (as part of a "war"), it makes sense to have a place far away from those regions.
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird also port cities that can open up when the arctic ice retreats (yay! Climate change!)
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@futurebird set up weird slave cities for american billionaires
Like Trump, Silicon Valley wants Greenland, too - for a Big Tech utopia
Wealthy tech investors are promoting Greenland as the site for a libertarian utopia with minimal corporate regulation.
USA TODAY (www.usatoday.com)
Why can't they just do that now?
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird as I understand it, due to the polar ice caps melting there will be a new viable sea trade route via the North West Passage.
But, like you say, I'm not sure why the US need to encroach on Greenland and not just, say, be allied to them. -
Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird mineral rights to exploit and sea passage to control
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird IMO it's not even companies, it's just Trump and his cronies' running a vanity project. From the way they've been pitching Venezuela to oil companies, him and his gang will just hold the whole thing hostage and demand direct payments for access, as in actual tens of percent income to the gov.
He just now outright gave an interview saying he wants Greenland because "it's psychologically important for him"
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Donald Trump Says He Wants 'Ownership' of Greenland Because It's 'Psychologically Important for Me'
President Donald Trump said that taking full 'ownership' over Greenland, rather than just upping the United States' military presence there, is 'psychologically important' to him during a lengthy sit-down interview with 'The New York Times'
People.com (people.com)
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird It's big on the world map, and somebody told him there might eventually be unexploited ressources under it, plus that he could get his money share for making it possible, so he wants it?
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
Probably extraction of minerals in a very harmful manner for the environment. Denmark and the EU does not give extractive industries free reign. @futurebird
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/the-world-the-universe-and-us/id1496847791
Basically nothing ; he has no clue. Only reason could be to secure Northern land with the incoming global warming apocalypse.
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@futurebird IMO it's not even companies, it's just Trump and his cronies' running a vanity project. From the way they've been pitching Venezuela to oil companies, him and his gang will just hold the whole thing hostage and demand direct payments for access, as in actual tens of percent income to the gov.
He just now outright gave an interview saying he wants Greenland because "it's psychologically important for him"
Donald Trump Says He Wants 'Ownership' of Greenland Because It's 'Psychologically Important for Me'
President Donald Trump said that taking full 'ownership' over Greenland, rather than just upping the United States' military presence there, is 'psychologically important' to him during a lengthy sit-down interview with 'The New York Times'
People.com (people.com)
I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.
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There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.
I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.
But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.
@futurebird
Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer. -
@futurebird
Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer.Everyone wants to be a little big man instead of actually doing amazing big things. The lack of imagination depresses me.
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird imho it's about having somewhere to live in a couple of decades when the majority of the continental US is uninhabitable due to climate change. Ditto the aspirations about Canada becoming the 51st state.
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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?
Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?
Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?
It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.
What do you get?
@futurebird Take away all indigenous rights and stripmine the bedrock that will be revealed as their climate decisions melt the ice caps.
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There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.
I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.
But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.
@futurebird I am sure it is the reason. These are the same type of people who orchestrated Brexit in the UK and sold it to the same type of "flag waving citizens" for support.
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I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.
@futurebird sounds about right. Impression I'm getting here and there is no one really asked for any of this outside the pres himself and his cronies looking to play modern day Alexander.
