I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge.
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@futurebird @FediThing This might be a stupid question, but isn't cold tap water drinkable where you are?
Tap water is "cool" if you let it run, but I like it a bit colder than that. And water tastes better after sitting in the fridge for a few days? I can't prove this and it sounds made up... maybe it's in my mind. But "unrested water" has a fizzy flavor I don't like.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird when I was in high school me and my dad realized that since we had cell phones we had stopped using our landline telephone entirely so my dad called the phone company to cancel it and apparently it was a bit of a hassle because at the time that wasn't a thing anyone did and the phone comapny wasn't sure how to handle it
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird I lived without a smart phone for about four years. I loved it, and people who talked to me about it were filled with envy, for all the reasons. I got one because I needed to travel overseas on very short notice, but I'm constantly plotting to get rid of it.
I read about how long it took for the average Italian to get a fridge in *Consider The Fork*. Their secret? The markets were very close by, so they could buy vegetables "on demand". I fantasize about that all the time.
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@futurebird I lived without a smart phone for about four years. I loved it, and people who talked to me about it were filled with envy, for all the reasons. I got one because I needed to travel overseas on very short notice, but I'm constantly plotting to get rid of it.
I read about how long it took for the average Italian to get a fridge in *Consider The Fork*. Their secret? The markets were very close by, so they could buy vegetables "on demand". I fantasize about that all the time.
@dnkboston @futurebird having lived it Italy in 1993 for a year, I can assure you that buying milk every day sucks.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird I've been strongly considering a flip phone that can do maps and calendar, the only "smart" features I must have.
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@dnkboston @futurebird having lived it Italy in 1993 for a year, I can assure you that buying milk every day sucks.
unrelated: but do the raw milk people know this is what they should be doing if they wanted their ... choice to be less likely to make them sick? (you still get sick)
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@futurebird I've been strongly considering a flip phone that can do maps and calendar, the only "smart" features I must have.
What are the things your phone does that you'd rather not have?
I generally love my smart phone. I love it for writing on the go (I've written most of my book on the phone) for listening to audio books, and reading books, for taking photos, for social media and texting.
Love love love it all.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird I don't have a microwave and many people seem to think this is an essential appliance. I just don't like the texture of food cooked in it and I really dislike when people heat water in it for things like tea because it tastes like the ghost of every microwave meal you've ever cooked and a kettle is much better for heating water, so I've lived without a microwave for over 2 years now and never going back.
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@futurebird I don't have a microwave and many people seem to think this is an essential appliance. I just don't like the texture of food cooked in it and I really dislike when people heat water in it for things like tea because it tastes like the ghost of every microwave meal you've ever cooked and a kettle is much better for heating water, so I've lived without a microwave for over 2 years now and never going back.
"I really dislike when people heat water in it for things like tea because it tastes like the ghost of every microwave meal you've ever cooked"
I had people argue with me about this "not if you have a clean microwave" etc. etc. I must say this happens even with my mom's microwave which is spotless always.
The water tastes wrong. It has a smell.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird Well, no TV for well over a decade - but I don't feel like that's much of an accomplishment

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@futurebird Well, no TV for well over a decade - but I don't feel like that's much of an accomplishment

I've never purchased a TV. But I feel like I watch so much video on my computer it doesn't count?
I used to not have a TV and not watch much of anything.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
@futurebird Not usually on purpose, but I won't spend money on something that I've spent my life doing without.
Example: my wife loves her robot vacuum for her hardwood floors. It only takes her about twenty minutes to find it, empty it, and put it on the charger. Even if the floor still looks like shit.
Meanwhile, I appreciate spending fifteen minutes using a broom to do the same job, more effectively.
I can buy a nail gun, but a hammer does a fine job. Etc.
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I'm fascinated by people who eliminate major appliances widely considered "essential" I have a friend who lives without a fridge. I don't really get this because I like cold water and ... perishable things. But, he's made it work and I'm a little jealous.
I know several people without smart phones. (That is not happening for me.)
Have you found joy in this way?
I'm off grid in the country and minimized modern conveniences. I have a refrigerator, but it's not always used. I usually pick up fresh fruits and vegetables before work and use the refrigerator in the office. Washing clothes or taking a shower, I can do that when it's raining.
I do have a massive surplus of solar power for heating and air conditioning, because I didn't do this to suffer, but to relax.
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@futurebird Not usually on purpose, but I won't spend money on something that I've spent my life doing without.
Example: my wife loves her robot vacuum for her hardwood floors. It only takes her about twenty minutes to find it, empty it, and put it on the charger. Even if the floor still looks like shit.
Meanwhile, I appreciate spending fifteen minutes using a broom to do the same job, more effectively.
I can buy a nail gun, but a hammer does a fine job. Etc.
@roknrol if I lived in the kind of space where a robot vacuum made even the least bit of sense I would absolutely have one NOT because itβs effective or efficient, but because *I want to play with a robot.* Please consider this regarding your wife. A girl needs her robots.