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Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney argues banning Twitter over its ability to AI-generate pornographic images of minors is just 'gatekeepers' attempting to 'censor all of their political opponents'

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  • ? Guest
    That doesn't stop everyone from directly calling elon musk a pedophile for creating a CP generating machine.
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    shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    And nor should it.
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      No, I think these billion dollar companies are incredibly sloppy about curating the content they steal to train their systems on.
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      mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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      True enough - but fortunately, there's approximately zero such images readily-available on public websites, for obvious reasons. There certainly is not some well-labeled training set on par with all the images of Shrek.
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        ‘I take child abuse seriously but also think it’s fine to generate nude pictures of real life children.’ Idk man. It’s a weird fuckin thing to admit to.
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        mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        Show me where anyone said that. Circle it in red.
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        • ? Guest
          Literally this meme again ![](https://media.piefed.ca/posts/gF/dP/gFdP084Q14ddxyF.jpeg)
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          If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by
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          • C cancermancer@sh.itjust.works
            Do you think that generated depictions of the sexual abuse of children are ok in any context?
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            mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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            How often do I have to say *this is still a crime* before y'all stop having a different argument inside your heads?
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              grass@sh.itjust.works
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              This is almost as sus as the the specific preferred age range terminology for pedophiles that comes up now and again in the most uncomfortable of scenarios
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                Please send me pictures of your mom so that I may draw her naked and post it on the internet.
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                mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                Do you understand that's a different thing than telling me you've fucked her?
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                  I already did the “what words mean” thing earlier. -involves a child -is sexual -is abusive (ie, not art) -is material That’s literally every word of CSAM, and it fits. >We need a term to specifically refer to actual photographs of actual child abuse? Why? You’ve made a whole lot of claims it should be your way but you’ve provided no sources nor any justification as to why we need to delineate between real and AI.
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                  mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                  Are you honestly asking me why child molestation is worse than rendering an image? This term was already developed to distinguish evidence of criminal events. I should fucking hope everyone here understands why preventing or punishing such events is a leading goal, but apparently that's asking too much, if y'all really do not believe there's a difference between pasting someone's head onto a magazine centerfold... versus sexually assaulting them. I am fucking bewildered by this lack of consensus on the topic of *child rape.* Really thought it was a gimme, for everyone to go, yeah, this thing over here is bad, but obviously it's not as bad as *child rape.* Didn't expect to fire up the computer and have Lemmings sincerely ask me, why are crimes that happened worse than crimes that didn't?
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                    Zionazi oligarchist supremacism controlling media/speech promoting hate and genocide is reason to zero out his finances and media control. That bipartisan establishment loves all of this, means this performative whining over image generation tools that can be used to fake offense, is the permitted pathethic discourse establishment masquerades as democracy.
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                      sunsofold@lemmings.world
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                      I'm no fan of banning this or that particular platform (it's like trying to get rid of cheeseburgers by banning McDonalds; the burgers are still available from all the other burger chains and all the people who use the one will just switch to others) but this is a hilariously wrong way to get to the right answer.
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                        I get this and I don't disagree, but I also hate that AI fully brought back thought crimes as a thing. I don't have a better approach or idea, but I really don't like that simply drawing a certain arrangement of lines and colors is now a crime. I've also seen a lot of positive sentiment at applying this to other forms of porn as well, ones less universally hated. Not supporting this use case at all and on balance I think this is the best option we have, but I do think thought crimes as a concept are just as concerning, especially given the current political climate.
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                        > I really don’t like that simply drawing a certain arrangement of lines and colors is now a crime I'm sorry to break it to you, but this has been illegal for a long time and it doesn't need to have anything to do with CSAM. For instance, drawing certain copyrighted material in certain contexts can be illegal. To go even further, numbers and maths can be illegal in the right circumstances. For instance, it may be illegal where you live to break the encryption of a certain file, depending on the file and encryption in question (e.g. DRM on copyrighted material). "Breaking the encryption of a file" essentially translates to "doing maths on a number" when you boil it down. That's how you can end up with the concept of [illegal numbers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number).
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                          Literally this meme again ![](https://media.piefed.ca/posts/gF/dP/gFdP084Q14ddxyF.jpeg)
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                          It helps that Tim Sweeney seems to always be wrong about everything.
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                            Dude, you're just wrong. There seems to be a huge disconnect with you between what the law is. And what you want the law to be. You are not allowed to take an image of someone, photoshop them naked, and distributed it. Period. You are also not allowed to depict child sexual abuse. It doesn't matter if it's not real. It's the depiction of CSA taking place that is illegal.
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                            mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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                            Depictions could somehow be twice as illegal as the real event, and they still wouldn't be the same thing. It literally did not take place.
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                              Pedo and facist defendant Tim Sweeney. Burn his business down by disconnecting your, patronage, money, time, etc.
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                                What a surprise, Tim Sweeney is still a shit person
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                                • U unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
                                  Nobody was talking about the "legality". We are talking about morals. And morally there is major difference.
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                                  Talking about morals and morality is how you end up getting things like abortion banned. Because some people felt morally superior and wanted to enforce their superior morality on everyone else. There's no point in bringing it up. If you need to bring up morals to argue your point. You've already failed. But please do enlighten me. Because personally. I don't think there's a moral difference between depicting "victimless" CSAM and CSAM containing a real person. I think they're both, morally, equally awful. But you said there's a major moral difference? For you maybe.
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                                    They are al such vile people 💀
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                                      Who else just did a search on the Epstein files for "Tim Sweeney"? I didn't find anything on [jmail](https://www.jmail.world/), but there's still a lot that haven't been released, and a lot of stuff is still redacted.
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                                        *sigh* I'll get my boycotting tools.
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                                          This guy needs to be gimped and fucked by zombie epstein with vance warming up with a recliner waiting on his turn. Can twitter make that happen?
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