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Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds
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This could be smart if the largest mobile OS, Android, didn't have dozens of GUIs/Styles depending on the manufacturer's whim
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Imagine leveraging your monopoly in attempt to gain market share in another market.
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They're not only being better optimized on Windows which results that running them through Proton is better. In a lot of cases Windows versions actually run, while native Linux don't, because there's no single stable API (ABI? Idk) on Linux and games break when you update your system.>(ABI? Idk) Application Brogramming Interface?
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> Proton is amazing, but it’s entirely overhead translating library/system calls to Linux. That is not at all true. > but that’s a separate statement about games being better optimized on Windows. Is that though? You can't say X is better than Y when you're changing multiple variables. If windows had a proton equivalent and both games ran through it then yes that would be a direct comparison. But you can't say X + Y is better than Z (by itself) DXVK is a part of proton that also is available on windows. DXVK alone can get you double digit performance improvements on games. And that's not getting into all the one off tweaks users can do to proton to optimize the game. Enabling pre compiled shaders gave a huge performance boost for [Elden Ring.](https://x.com/Plagman2/status/1497721812699860994)>But you can't say X + Y is better than Z (by itself) I mean, yeah, you absolutely can. Especially when X + Y and Z are both common configurations, and using X or Y by themselves is uncommon or a known bad setup. Sure, you can't be certain *which* of X or Y is making the differences in the comparison, but the comparison can absolutely be made.
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>(ABI? Idk) Application Brogramming Interface?
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Android is still more consistent than PC Linux. Most Android interfaces are nearly identical. Give me and Android phone that I've never used before and I know how to perform the most common tasks without help. Not the same.Ah so because your familiar with it it's easier? Interesting
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This post did not contain any content.We'll have to see if that's the same with the Xbox Ally. I'll be laughing if its still outperformed
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Linux will never be mainstream while it's controlled by nerds. I mean there is no uniform interface (there's so many guitar options) and when people want to learn it, the support is from people who think "it just works".I mean, DOS was a base OS that had several frontend GUIs. Windows 3.1 I think? Wasn't even made by Microsoft. It got adopted by Microsoft and then of course they close sourced it like big companies do. Most Linux versions come with the frontend preconfigured unless you get specifically the server version of the OS. What's going to happen is one of the Linux front ends is going to see widespread adoption/support, and it's looking like it's going to be KDE Plasma. Hopefully the others aren't just abandoned and left to rot. The situation is a little different with how open source software is licensed though. So that give me hope that the open source nature of Linux won't be compromised as much.
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Windows 95 launched like a rock concert and since computers came with Windows, everyone's experience was the same so you did have KDE installed then go look for help and have people say "no no no. Install Gnome" like you get with Linux. You want linux to be mainstream, you need to appeal to the average dumb person which means ditch all but 1 interface.The steamdeck a handheld gaming PC comes with Linux, and several handheld gaming PC's are beginning to follow suit, some PC manufacturers already offer Linux as an option. Even so, most gamers, which is who I was talking about, build their own PC's and pick their own OS's to begin with.
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DOS was the most popular OS for gaming at the time and Doom was released first on DOS by id. Gabe Newell and team ported it to Windows 95.
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> Games run faster on SteamOS ***with proton*** than Windows 11, Ars testing finds FTFY. I hate all these articles that downplay the heavy lifting proton (and all the tools that make it up) are doing. But "Proton makes games run better" doesn't get the same attention.
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Imagine leveraging your monopoly in attempt to gain market share in another market.Except they wouldn't be? SteamOS is just fancy Linux, so they wouldn't be directly gaining market share & I don't see how them releasing a game only on one (free and open source) platform is suddenly wrong? In a world where virtually every PC game already does that, just for Windows Have you forgotten about Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony (actual monopolies: controls hardware, software, marketplace, etc)
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Except they wouldn't be? SteamOS is just fancy Linux, so they wouldn't be directly gaining market share & I don't see how them releasing a game only on one (free and open source) platform is suddenly wrong? In a world where virtually every PC game already does that, just for Windows Have you forgotten about Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony (actual monopolies: controls hardware, software, marketplace, etc)Android is just fancy Linux. iOS is just fancy BSD. I guess neither can be a monopoly. Whataboutism seems to be admission of truth these days.
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Android is just fancy Linux. iOS is just fancy BSD. I guess neither can be a monopoly. Whataboutism seems to be admission of truth these days.1. Android is, at its core, an open source mobile operating system. What Google has done with it is monopolize all of the software for the platform. There are competitors (read: GrapheneOS, F-Droid) which are also based on the Android Operating System but outcompeted by Googles market position 2. iOS shouldn't even be in this conversation, not open source & completely walled garden 3. "Whataboutism seems to be an admission of truth these days" HUH? At what point did I engage in whataboutism, i simply pointed to other companies that have set standards for gaming accessibility in the market. Valve: 1. Has Steam, the largest videogame platform on PC. You claim it's a monopoly but it's not because it has direct competitors in Epic Games (Fortnite is not a small game), Riot Games (League and Valorant are not small games), Battle.net (WoW, Hearthstone, Overwatch are not small games), etc 2. Developed the proton translation layer (which you yourself made this post for), and released it open source so anyone can use it. I myself leverage Proton for Linux gaming on a daily basis (I do NOT run SteamOS) 3. Released SteamOS, which is a fork of Arch Linux, as a means of helping gamers break away from the real monopoly of Microsoft/Windows 4. Is not creating a walled garden the likes of which we have seen in every xbox, playstation, and nintendo console. If Epic, Riot, Blizzard, etc wanted to release a launcher for Linux (and subsequently SteamOS) they could. They just choose not to, because they feel it doesn't make financial sense for them to do that.
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1. Android is, at its core, an open source mobile operating system. What Google has done with it is monopolize all of the software for the platform. There are competitors (read: GrapheneOS, F-Droid) which are also based on the Android Operating System but outcompeted by Googles market position 2. iOS shouldn't even be in this conversation, not open source & completely walled garden 3. "Whataboutism seems to be an admission of truth these days" HUH? At what point did I engage in whataboutism, i simply pointed to other companies that have set standards for gaming accessibility in the market. Valve: 1. Has Steam, the largest videogame platform on PC. You claim it's a monopoly but it's not because it has direct competitors in Epic Games (Fortnite is not a small game), Riot Games (League and Valorant are not small games), Battle.net (WoW, Hearthstone, Overwatch are not small games), etc 2. Developed the proton translation layer (which you yourself made this post for), and released it open source so anyone can use it. I myself leverage Proton for Linux gaming on a daily basis (I do NOT run SteamOS) 3. Released SteamOS, which is a fork of Arch Linux, as a means of helping gamers break away from the real monopoly of Microsoft/Windows 4. Is not creating a walled garden the likes of which we have seen in every xbox, playstation, and nintendo console. If Epic, Riot, Blizzard, etc wanted to release a launcher for Linux (and subsequently SteamOS) they could. They just choose not to, because they feel it doesn't make financial sense for them to do that.I’ve had this discussion enough times here that I’m bored of it and will get dogpiled as always. I’m mostly bored of explaining what a monopoly is because the rest of your argument is that Valve is a benevolent company. I’ll just say they sell gambling games to children which should be enough measure of their benevolence and it extends to their other self-serving activities. Valve fans are the only video game tribe on Lemmy that actively applauds monopolistic practices. I’m blocking you now because you guys are so boring. Goodbye.
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That's odd, my best guess is the version of proton lutris is trying to use is installed incorrectly. I had that issue in my laptop for awhile.
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The steamdeck a handheld gaming PC comes with Linux, and several handheld gaming PC's are beginning to follow suit, some PC manufacturers already offer Linux as an option. Even so, most gamers, which is who I was talking about, build their own PC's and pick their own OS's to begin with.
