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'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'

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    *sips rum*
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      Digital hoarding is a [mental disorder](https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/digital-hoarding-a-new-version-of-an-old-psychological-challenge) same as any other form of hoarding.
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      Per the article you posted (interesting read BTW!) >With digital hoarding, however, the act of saving the file becomes an uncontrollable urge. >“It means that they’ve lost the choice — they feel they have to save it. If they do not, they may feel uncomfortable and, more often than not, anxious that they may need to have access to the information and it’s not going to be there,” he says. But I don't think "picking up a game on sale because you might want to play it and the price is so low you wouldn't even notice the money" is quite Digital Hoarding.
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        Per the article you posted (interesting read BTW!) >With digital hoarding, however, the act of saving the file becomes an uncontrollable urge. >“It means that they’ve lost the choice — they feel they have to save it. If they do not, they may feel uncomfortable and, more often than not, anxious that they may need to have access to the information and it’s not going to be there,” he says. But I don't think "picking up a game on sale because you might want to play it and the price is so low you wouldn't even notice the money" is quite Digital Hoarding.
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        It is very common for people to joke about how big their backlog is. I’m not sure we can call buying things you’re never going to play as frugal. I’m on autism spectrum and do both regular and digital hoarding occasionally but I’m a bit more mindful about it ever since I admitted it. Many people seem to be in denial.
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          It is very common for people to joke about how big their backlog is. I’m not sure we can call buying things you’re never going to play as frugal. I’m on autism spectrum and do both regular and digital hoarding occasionally but I’m a bit more mindful about it ever since I admitted it. Many people seem to be in denial.
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          I'm sure there are folks who fall under that umbrella. But I was more responding in the context of this specific comment thread.
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          • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
            Digital hoarding is a [mental disorder](https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/digital-hoarding-a-new-version-of-an-old-psychological-challenge) same as any other form of hoarding.
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            From the article: "Hoarding is a disorder characterized by difficulty in parting with possessions" and this is key, "Digital hoarders often will cite an emotional attachment or a sentimental value to files they collect — including photos or email exchanges — associated with their own life experiences or with people in their lives. In such cases, he says, anticipating difficulty coping with feelings that accompany a permanent loss of these items becomes a barrier to controlling their hoarding behavior." The mental disorder comes from the difficulty of parting with those possessions because the individual is tying emotional response to them. Have you ever tried to remove an object that you consider trash from a person that is hording? It's going to be a really bad time and a massive emotional roller coaster for everyone. This article made more sense to post than the original one from PC Gamer. I do wish consultants and experts would stop labeling people with disorders because of anecdotal evidence or trying to have some kind of shock value. It starts associated people of a massive community with a mental disorder too. If someone deleted my steam library, I would be upset, but not on the actual level of an person that hordes. You ever see the show "Hoarders"? It's extremely sad and painful to watch. That's not to say digital horders don't exist on steam. The moment they lose a game and start freaking out beyond "i just lost money", that person needs professional help.
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              I would download a nice steak and a healthy salad instead!
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              "Oops. The healthy salad got corrupted. Guess it's just steak. 🤷‍♂️"
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                "Oops. The healthy salad got corrupted. Guess it's just steak. 🤷‍♂️"
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                I'll just find another torrent tracker where its improved 1.5 version is available.
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                • misk@sopuli.xyzM misk@sopuli.xyz
                  Digital hoarding is a [mental disorder](https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/digital-hoarding-a-new-version-of-an-old-psychological-challenge) same as any other form of hoarding.
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                  Buying an indie platformer that you might not play is not anywhere close to actual IRL hording. And it's not even what is being described as digital hording in that article from UCLA. It's straight up irresponsible to compare it to an actual hording mental disorder. Like, you must not have ever experienced that in any capacity to think that. Although, surely digital horders have some cross over. The prevalence of people not playing a game they bought on discount ain't it fam.
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                    You've got a lot of nerve being right
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                      He doesn't consider game bundles like e.g. humble bundle. There you can get loads of steam games which you might activate but only play a few from.
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                      Hey if I could sell a million copies of a game for just a dollar each as my cut of a bundle, well I’d be a millionaire!
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                        Walled gardens create digital plantations
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                          From the article: "Hoarding is a disorder characterized by difficulty in parting with possessions" and this is key, "Digital hoarders often will cite an emotional attachment or a sentimental value to files they collect — including photos or email exchanges — associated with their own life experiences or with people in their lives. In such cases, he says, anticipating difficulty coping with feelings that accompany a permanent loss of these items becomes a barrier to controlling their hoarding behavior." The mental disorder comes from the difficulty of parting with those possessions because the individual is tying emotional response to them. Have you ever tried to remove an object that you consider trash from a person that is hording? It's going to be a really bad time and a massive emotional roller coaster for everyone. This article made more sense to post than the original one from PC Gamer. I do wish consultants and experts would stop labeling people with disorders because of anecdotal evidence or trying to have some kind of shock value. It starts associated people of a massive community with a mental disorder too. If someone deleted my steam library, I would be upset, but not on the actual level of an person that hordes. You ever see the show "Hoarders"? It's extremely sad and painful to watch. That's not to say digital horders don't exist on steam. The moment they lose a game and start freaking out beyond "i just lost money", that person needs professional help.
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                          Expanding on that, and explaining why this is not Digital hoarding, I have a HUGE catalog of games, lots of which came from bundles and such, if I was able to sell back games to steam, even if for a few cents, I would delete a big chunk of that. But as is I have no reason to do it, I can put them in a "never played" category and forget about them until I randomly find a game in the store that mildly interests me and notice it's already in my library.
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                            Can this business model survive a recession?
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