If we are getting realistic, a pair of wings is always accompanied by a very big pair of chest muscles. Imagine a human with pectorals in proportion to the body as a dove.



I would guess that if you had wings with feathers you'd be intimately knowledgeable on the tensile strength of them

That's what we all say. I mean they

Hasn't been a copout yet. It's always been in response to the above type of energy. Of someone um actuallying a meme because there is a difference in the meme to how reality is. It's bizarre.

Anyone who has wings (particularly if you have.. ehhem. adult-sized wings) knows this is impractical, and it's way better to just use snaps or buttons.

Tiny wings are very much capable of lifting heavy things, but they have to flap super quickly. Humming birds have really tiny wings compared to their size, but since they never glide, it's not important. The bigger issue is the position of the wings. Since the line between the center of mass and center of force (the wings) is not perfectly vertical, Pit would lean forward during flight. His body would be suspended under his wings. This means his body is blocking most of the wind generated by his wings. So he would have to exert even more force to stay flying. Plus, your arms would get super sore when all that force is pushing them forward. It should also be noted that Put doesn't have the musculature to support this level of force. His biceps are connected to his arms, not his wings, so he must have a separate set of muscles specifically for his wings. The only suitable anchor points are his ribs and spine, but in no art do we see the require muscle groups around his shoulder blades. In short: I don't think this is real, guys.

What if he's just really really light

You would think but tell that to the number of times I break a nail doing routine shit

Lmao, true

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Hummingbirds get lift on both strokes, forward and back, and require an extremely specialized set of wings to do so. In regards to your comment about muscles for lift, birds have a “keel bone” (like a boat) which is where the anchors for their wing muscles are. Equivalent to our sternum. So the muscles for flight in the image would be on the front, not the ribs or spine.

I thought about that, but I don't think that makes sense in this situation. The wings and arms must use different muscle groups, and the biceps would be used for the arms, not the wings. Furthermore, since the wings are on the back of Pit, the muscles would either have to wrap around the rib cage or go through them, constricting the lungs.

You can't just tuck the wings back in the same way because the feathers will get stuck on the shirt when going against the grain. I imagine it's easier to pull the shirt up from the bottom and have the wings stretched out over his head.

So the bicep and tricep of birds, let's just use chickens since most people will be familiar with them, are mostly responsible for in flight control. That's the drumette. The flat, the one with two bones, are for controlling the very tip of the wing, for maneuvering. Notably these muscles are kinda big compared to the body size of the bird. About 6 inches around. If a human were the size of a chicken our biceps would be something like an inch around in comparison. For liftoff, and staying aloft, birds have slightly different muscle groups. This is the breast meat. Bird chest muscles are *ridiculously* huge compared to their bodies. They don't really have abs, the have chest muscles down their entire torso. Chickens are kind of mutants and aren't really good examples anymore but birds universally have absolutely BADONKERS chests. Basically what I'm saying is: If Pit were drawn by Rob Liefeld, he'd be closer to obtaining flight.

There is a haibane renmei reference here somewhere

My thoughts exactly

Bro were talking about a fictional character from a fictional humanoid race that has wings. I feel like arguing about the mechanics of fabric pulling on a feather is a bit.... Pointless

yeah i think they're just kind of magical little wings that make pit able to float or something