Are you struggling to buy your favorite headache pills, lotions, makeup or other shelf-stable goods while avoiding using amazon?
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Are you struggling to buy your favorite headache pills, lotions, makeup or other shelf-stable goods while avoiding using amazon? For some brands it might seem like the only option if you only look at the first three pages of a search. But nearly always the manufacturer will sell to you directly— although their pages are buried. I almost thought ebay was my only option— (items on ebay are often expired)
Nope! The manufacturer will ship to me and it’s a few cents less than amazon. (not much less)
There is something delightful about just buying things from whoever made them directly. It’s more fun in person— but no one is selling my favorite brand of migraine pills at the farmer’s market. And I know the brand that works and will throw a fit if I can’t have it. Amazon has cornered this kind of online purchase and driven all alternatives to obscurity. Don’t bother with walmart they are under some kind of corporate shipping warfare the product may not arrive. (and walmart isn’t great either)
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There is something delightful about just buying things from whoever made them directly. It’s more fun in person— but no one is selling my favorite brand of migraine pills at the farmer’s market. And I know the brand that works and will throw a fit if I can’t have it. Amazon has cornered this kind of online purchase and driven all alternatives to obscurity. Don’t bother with walmart they are under some kind of corporate shipping warfare the product may not arrive. (and walmart isn’t great either)
I don’t expect any of these companies are paragons of good but why involve amazon and a reseller in the process at all? Let the company who made the thing take all those profits.
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I don’t expect any of these companies are paragons of good but why involve amazon and a reseller in the process at all? Let the company who made the thing take all those profits.
That quip about the shipping warfare and walmart is something I wish I could investigate more. Something very fishy is going on— basically I know a lot of people who stopped using amazon and tried walmart online instead for the few things they can’t find in local shops. In each case they would make an order only to have it cancelled after waiting a week— or it would fail to be delivered. Wild stuff. Never happened with amazon.
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I don’t expect any of these companies are paragons of good but why involve amazon and a reseller in the process at all? Let the company who made the thing take all those profits.
@futurebird That’s the approach we take as often as possible - go directly to the company we need a thing from. Also, the 4-million-square-foot automated Amazon warehouse we have out by the airport would like to have a word with us about reduced shipping costs.
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That quip about the shipping warfare and walmart is something I wish I could investigate more. Something very fishy is going on— basically I know a lot of people who stopped using amazon and tried walmart online instead for the few things they can’t find in local shops. In each case they would make an order only to have it cancelled after waiting a week— or it would fail to be delivered. Wild stuff. Never happened with amazon.
Mostly they got refunds but it was like Walmart was trying to shoot itself in the foot— or more likely when walmart tries to ship to NYC there are too many ways that amazon could mess things up for them. Amazon has its own fleet of delivery vehicles and runs half of the post office. I have not encountered this issue with direct sales from manufacturers.
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Mostly they got refunds but it was like Walmart was trying to shoot itself in the foot— or more likely when walmart tries to ship to NYC there are too many ways that amazon could mess things up for them. Amazon has its own fleet of delivery vehicles and runs half of the post office. I have not encountered this issue with direct sales from manufacturers.
@futurebird yeah, this has gotta be a NYC issue cause i haven't had any problems with getting things shipped from walmart and i live upstate
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@futurebird yeah, this has gotta be a NYC issue cause i haven't had any problems with getting things shipped from walmart and i live upstate
They have no stores in greater NYC and this has been a hard fought battle. Amazon has done some of the same things to our many small shops and businesses we feared walmart would. I know of many small towns ruined by a walmart.
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@futurebird That’s the approach we take as often as possible - go directly to the company we need a thing from. Also, the 4-million-square-foot automated Amazon warehouse we have out by the airport would like to have a word with us about reduced shipping costs.
This is one of the reasons ali-express was so exciting. People think it’s like amazon but it’s not. It’s not vertically integrated in the same way. When you buy electronics often you are dealing with the factory in China. If you are adventurous and patient you can email them (write in English and include a translation with an apology) and they are super helpful and will hook you up with the parts you need. It’s closer to early ebay than amazon.
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This is one of the reasons ali-express was so exciting. People think it’s like amazon but it’s not. It’s not vertically integrated in the same way. When you buy electronics often you are dealing with the factory in China. If you are adventurous and patient you can email them (write in English and include a translation with an apology) and they are super helpful and will hook you up with the parts you need. It’s closer to early ebay than amazon.
For customers who don’t speak Chinese it’s more like a directory of where things are made and who to talk to. They don’t even ignore me when I tell them I’m a teacher and not a big company and will only spend a few 100 dollars. US electronics manufacturers block me for being too small potatoes while charging five times as much.
Keep waiting for tariffs to ruin this but not yet.
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For customers who don’t speak Chinese it’s more like a directory of where things are made and who to talk to. They don’t even ignore me when I tell them I’m a teacher and not a big company and will only spend a few 100 dollars. US electronics manufacturers block me for being too small potatoes while charging five times as much.
Keep waiting for tariffs to ruin this but not yet.
@futurebird That is cool, I will check it out. I wonder how the (eminently dumb) de minimis problems will affect that sort of shipping.
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Are you struggling to buy your favorite headache pills, lotions, makeup or other shelf-stable goods while avoiding using amazon? For some brands it might seem like the only option if you only look at the first three pages of a search. But nearly always the manufacturer will sell to you directly— although their pages are buried. I almost thought ebay was my only option— (items on ebay are often expired)
Nope! The manufacturer will ship to me and it’s a few cents less than amazon. (not much less)
For lotions, I found how to make my own super cheap. There are places like Lotioncrafter that sell the raw active ingredients like peptides and all the other oils that activate the skin proteins desired.
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@futurebird That is cool, I will check it out. I wonder how the (eminently dumb) de minimis problems will affect that sort of shipping.
When you are buying small quantities of inexpensive items like resistors and boards even if the price is doubled it’s not that alarming. Because the price was $1 and now it’s $2.
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For lotions, I found how to make my own super cheap. There are places like Lotioncrafter that sell the raw active ingredients like peptides and all the other oils that activate the skin proteins desired.
Needing fewer products and simplifying is a longer term project and one that I won’t twist anyone’s arm about. I do think it’s very rewarding. When I was younger and more idealistic I tried to brew my own Redbull by finding all of the ingredients and trying to buy them … um— don’t mess with powdered caffeine. Horrible idea.
but yeah there is some room for growth here — up to a point.
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Are you struggling to buy your favorite headache pills, lotions, makeup or other shelf-stable goods while avoiding using amazon? For some brands it might seem like the only option if you only look at the first three pages of a search. But nearly always the manufacturer will sell to you directly— although their pages are buried. I almost thought ebay was my only option— (items on ebay are often expired)
Nope! The manufacturer will ship to me and it’s a few cents less than amazon. (not much less)
@futurebird
I usually do a quick web search to see if the same product is available from someone other than Amazon. A lot of manufacturers will sell you their products from their own web pages. -
@futurebird
I usually do a quick web search to see if the same product is available from someone other than Amazon. A lot of manufacturers will sell you their products from their own web pages.@tofugolem @futurebird We started doing the same in our household. End result? We spend less money (as it is a barrier now to overcome) and we support the company directly meaning they keep more profit.
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@tofugolem @futurebird We started doing the same in our household. End result? We spend less money (as it is a barrier now to overcome) and we support the company directly meaning they keep more profit.
I’ve been saving so much money since I went off amazon. I used to get a box from them every week and got very bad about this during lockdown— but I haven’t seen their logo or the boxes with the blue tape for months. My goal is to make it so they can skip our whole apartment complex. Seriously considering setting up a table in the lobby to help people find alternatives. I’ve decided they don’t really provide value or save people money.
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Mostly they got refunds but it was like Walmart was trying to shoot itself in the foot— or more likely when walmart tries to ship to NYC there are too many ways that amazon could mess things up for them. Amazon has its own fleet of delivery vehicles and runs half of the post office. I have not encountered this issue with direct sales from manufacturers.
@futurebird And to make it even weirder, Sam's Club is owned by Walmart but seems to have no problems shipping into NYC.
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@futurebird And to make it even weirder, Sam's Club is owned by Walmart but seems to have no problems shipping into NYC.
@futurebird And now this hits the news: https://www.geekwire.com/2025/sold-on-walmart-sent-by-amazon-the-weird-new-world-of-online-retail/