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    I spent an hour yesterday working with one student. She was scared of the soldering iron. "Do your parents let you use the stove at home? It could burn you too, right? But we understand how to be safe and it's not a problem."

    She did a beautiful job on her project and learned the names of many parts and learned that she can be scared to do something but still be extremely successful.

    This is only really possible because my classes are small. If I need to work with a student I can do it.

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      I spent an hour yesterday working with one student. She was scared of the soldering iron. "Do your parents let you use the stove at home? It could burn you too, right? But we understand how to be safe and it's not a problem."

      She did a beautiful job on her project and learned the names of many parts and learned that she can be scared to do something but still be extremely successful.

      This is only really possible because my classes are small. If I need to work with a student I can do it.

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      @futurebird When I was teaching, I had a student with an independent study lay out a circuit to flash an LED with a 555 timer and we had a company manufacture 30 PCBs based on his work. I then taught 7th graders how to assemble them. My prideful moment was when two girls in the class were fighting about whose turn it was to solder (I only had 2 irons). Those are exactly the kind of disagreements that you really want to have.
      Also, because of the fact that we only had 2 irons, I had the class problem solve how we were going to make 30 circuit boards with wires when we only had two soldering irons. They decided on two parallel assembly lines with no cues from me.

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        I spent an hour yesterday working with one student. She was scared of the soldering iron. "Do your parents let you use the stove at home? It could burn you too, right? But we understand how to be safe and it's not a problem."

        She did a beautiful job on her project and learned the names of many parts and learned that she can be scared to do something but still be extremely successful.

        This is only really possible because my classes are small. If I need to work with a student I can do it.

        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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        "HoW dO We IMprOVe EdUcaTIoN??"

        People act like it's a big mystery but it's not?

        1. Better educated teachers.
        2. More experienced teachers. (as in a ratio to new teachers)
        3. Limit class size to 20 students aim for an average of 14.
        4. Equip schools with sufficient materials eg: buildings that are safe and functional, internet that works, computers for students, you know the materials.

        Most "education innovations" are trying to skip this stuff and use something else instead to save money.

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          "HoW dO We IMprOVe EdUcaTIoN??"

          People act like it's a big mystery but it's not?

          1. Better educated teachers.
          2. More experienced teachers. (as in a ratio to new teachers)
          3. Limit class size to 20 students aim for an average of 14.
          4. Equip schools with sufficient materials eg: buildings that are safe and functional, internet that works, computers for students, you know the materials.

          Most "education innovations" are trying to skip this stuff and use something else instead to save money.

          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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          And it might work if you, say, cheat. If you, for example, select a population of students with parents who can buy materials for them, and only let in students who have already learned how to do self-guided instruction you can have a class of 90 students and lecture them on calculus and they will learn a lot.

          But at some point SOMEONE had to put in the real time to get them ready to do that.

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            And it might work if you, say, cheat. If you, for example, select a population of students with parents who can buy materials for them, and only let in students who have already learned how to do self-guided instruction you can have a class of 90 students and lecture them on calculus and they will learn a lot.

            But at some point SOMEONE had to put in the real time to get them ready to do that.

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            @futurebird It would help also if we (a) didn't rate students against each other (VERY difficult to achieve in our society), and (b) taught a lot less nonsense.

            Our current society VERY often promotes to the top those who rate highest in repeating complete nonsense. This is a big reason why we are headed towards things like climate disaster.

            BTW I was soldering when I was like 8 years old but that was the 1960s. Parents had me using plastic solvent to make a model battleship when I was 6. 🙂

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              @futurebird It would help also if we (a) didn't rate students against each other (VERY difficult to achieve in our society), and (b) taught a lot less nonsense.

              Our current society VERY often promotes to the top those who rate highest in repeating complete nonsense. This is a big reason why we are headed towards things like climate disaster.

              BTW I was soldering when I was like 8 years old but that was the 1960s. Parents had me using plastic solvent to make a model battleship when I was 6. 🙂

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              @futurebird I am not saying my parents gave me educational support BTW. They were downright neglectful. I'm just saying back then things were different. I was allowed my pocketknife at school when I had a Cub Scout den meeting after, for instance.

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                @futurebird I am not saying my parents gave me educational support BTW. They were downright neglectful. I'm just saying back then things were different. I was allowed my pocketknife at school when I had a Cub Scout den meeting after, for instance.

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                @chemoelectric @futurebird

                I'm about that age too. On other social media, it's hilarious how young(er) people mythologize the past we actually lived in.

                Kids riding bikes without helmets and disappearing all day? 🤯

                Making your own fireworks in the back yard? 😬

                Dinosaurs roamed the Earth in the 80s! Dude, I'm from the 70s.

                There's a lot of right-wing nostalgia for that epoch by people who know nothing about it. Someone on Twitter said 'The past is white people's Wakanda'.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  "HoW dO We IMprOVe EdUcaTIoN??"

                  People act like it's a big mystery but it's not?

                  1. Better educated teachers.
                  2. More experienced teachers. (as in a ratio to new teachers)
                  3. Limit class size to 20 students aim for an average of 14.
                  4. Equip schools with sufficient materials eg: buildings that are safe and functional, internet that works, computers for students, you know the materials.

                  Most "education innovations" are trying to skip this stuff and use something else instead to save money.

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                  @futurebird ok, so we use chatGPT

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                    @futurebird ok, so we use chatGPT

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                    @Kierkegaanks

                    **sustained screaming**

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                      I spent an hour yesterday working with one student. She was scared of the soldering iron. "Do your parents let you use the stove at home? It could burn you too, right? But we understand how to be safe and it's not a problem."

                      She did a beautiful job on her project and learned the names of many parts and learned that she can be scared to do something but still be extremely successful.

                      This is only really possible because my classes are small. If I need to work with a student I can do it.

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                      @futurebird (complete tangent on soldering iron fears of a different sort)
                      One of the funniest work interactions I've been part of:

                      I sometimes write embedded software professionally. During the early days at one job, a connection popped loose from a development board I was working with.

                      No big deal; I walked next door to the hardware lab with intent to tack the connection back down.

                      Dead silence when the new software guy asked to borrow a soldering iron.

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                        @chemoelectric @futurebird

                        I'm about that age too. On other social media, it's hilarious how young(er) people mythologize the past we actually lived in.

                        Kids riding bikes without helmets and disappearing all day? 🤯

                        Making your own fireworks in the back yard? 😬

                        Dinosaurs roamed the Earth in the 80s! Dude, I'm from the 70s.

                        There's a lot of right-wing nostalgia for that epoch by people who know nothing about it. Someone on Twitter said 'The past is white people's Wakanda'.

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                        @Phosphenes @chemoelectric @futurebird There's a lot of right-wing nostalgia for the version of a world that never was. Their own worlds didn't live up to the televised landscape of the ideal, and now they want to return to the framework they want to believe will create that world now. To admit that it was never real would mean admitting they were used by others and that they lied to themselves.

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                          @Phosphenes @chemoelectric @futurebird There's a lot of right-wing nostalgia for the version of a world that never was. Their own worlds didn't live up to the televised landscape of the ideal, and now they want to return to the framework they want to believe will create that world now. To admit that it was never real would mean admitting they were used by others and that they lied to themselves.

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                          @Phosphenes @athena_rising @futurebird @chemoelectric

                          And they’ll say: we did x, y, and z and didn’t have a, b, c and we all survived!

                          … except that we didn’t all survive, not the ones who died of illness, or ‘accident’, and no one counts the maimed and institutionalized.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            I spent an hour yesterday working with one student. She was scared of the soldering iron. "Do your parents let you use the stove at home? It could burn you too, right? But we understand how to be safe and it's not a problem."

                            She did a beautiful job on her project and learned the names of many parts and learned that she can be scared to do something but still be extremely successful.

                            This is only really possible because my classes are small. If I need to work with a student I can do it.

                            Barry GoldmanB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @futurebird my last attempt at taching was a long term sub in 7th grade science. the 'honors' class was 29 kids. not very honorable either. nor were there often enough chairs. don't even ask about soldering irons. i don't think i was even allowed to use microscopes. everything was locked up.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              "HoW dO We IMprOVe EdUcaTIoN??"

                              People act like it's a big mystery but it's not?

                              1. Better educated teachers.
                              2. More experienced teachers. (as in a ratio to new teachers)
                              3. Limit class size to 20 students aim for an average of 14.
                              4. Equip schools with sufficient materials eg: buildings that are safe and functional, internet that works, computers for students, you know the materials.

                              Most "education innovations" are trying to skip this stuff and use something else instead to save money.

                              Barry GoldmanB This user is from outside of this forum
                              Barry GoldmanB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @futurebird avg of 14 students?????? where are you dreaming? r you talking about pre-k?

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