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My wife picked up a zine that is advertising the fediverse.

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    Let's hope there are punk workshops for accessible graphic design

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    @internetsdairy

    Also with a link that long, a QR code would be very helpful

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      Also with a link that long, a QR code would be very helpful

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      @gbargoud the typeface of the URL is the worst thing I think

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        My wife picked up a zine that is advertising the fediverse.

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        @internetsdairy @pluralistic oh! Those would be lovely to leave in Little Free Libraries!

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          @internetsdairy @pluralistic oh! Those would be lovely to leave in Little Free Libraries!

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          @deborahh @pluralistic lo it's three quid for four pages

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            @deborahh @pluralistic lo it's three quid for four pages

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            @deborahh @pluralistic I meant to say lol but I'll stick with lo

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            • ? Guest

              Let's hope there are punk workshops for accessible graphic design

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              @internetsdairy whats the proplem with graphix? looks good / functional to me

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                @gbargoud the typeface of the URL is the worst thing I think

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                @internetsdairy @gbargoud haters gonna hate & bitchers gonna bitch

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                  My wife picked up a zine that is advertising the fediverse.

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                  @internetsdairy it’s so cool seeing little ads like this, hope that I can see more of these pop in irl in the future

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                    @gbargoud the typeface of the URL is the worst thing I think

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                    @internetsdairy @gbargoud I remember this typeface/font from early 1980s computer magazines and even local (Czech) education toolkit for children, called "Logitronic" πŸ™‚ But on the other hand, such typeface would be rarely used by real punk movement of 1980s... today, it just looks like "generic retro".

                    On the other hand, the punk aesthetics was always perfect antithesis of good and accessible graphics design. Level of obfuscation was second only to the incomprehensible psychedelic banners of hippie era...

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                      @internetsdairy @gbargoud I remember this typeface/font from early 1980s computer magazines and even local (Czech) education toolkit for children, called "Logitronic" πŸ™‚ But on the other hand, such typeface would be rarely used by real punk movement of 1980s... today, it just looks like "generic retro".

                      On the other hand, the punk aesthetics was always perfect antithesis of good and accessible graphics design. Level of obfuscation was second only to the incomprehensible psychedelic banners of hippie era...

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                      @xChaos @gbargoud I'm fine with the aesthetic to a point, just they should probably make the URL legible at the very least

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                        @xChaos @gbargoud I'm fine with the aesthetic to a point, just they should probably make the URL legible at the very least

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                        @internetsdairy and is it even real URL?

                        Anyway, this is what punk aesthetics is. If you don't like it, you probably don't want to federate with punk instances πŸ™‚ It was never about being absolutely inclusive - it was about self-expression, creativity, whatever... and well, for someone, who remember the 1980s aesthetics, this crossover style means really lot... because it mixes exactly the stuff, which would not be mixed in 1980s this way.

                        The message is emotion, in this case, I think. Not the message itself.

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                          @internetsdairy and is it even real URL?

                          Anyway, this is what punk aesthetics is. If you don't like it, you probably don't want to federate with punk instances πŸ™‚ It was never about being absolutely inclusive - it was about self-expression, creativity, whatever... and well, for someone, who remember the 1980s aesthetics, this crossover style means really lot... because it mixes exactly the stuff, which would not be mixed in 1980s this way.

                          The message is emotion, in this case, I think. Not the message itself.

                          @gbargoud

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                          @xChaos @gbargoud a punk ethos is pretty meaningless if it's not accessible to the most marginalised

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                            @xChaos @gbargoud a punk ethos is pretty meaningless if it's not accessible to the most marginalised

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                            @internetsdairy ok, but you can say the same about most artistic movements of the past πŸ™‚

                            It is image. You published it with ALT text for image, which made it accessible... for people, who are in the Fedi already, ok. But this was not intended for people, who are in the Fedi, but for people, who like the visual style of given fanzine. Because most of the read it exactly because of the nostalgic 1980s-1980s underground visual style...

                            If Fediverse gets promoted in an e-zine printed in Braille, the URL will be written in Braille. Not all target groups are created equal. The very idea of subculture is idea of certain exclusive club, in fact. Because the exclusivity created kind of safe space, of different kind, than what is needed today, but the result was generally the same, as Fediverse.

                            It looks like allpunxpleaseleavemeta.com is actually not an URL! So complaining about non-URL being non-readable is well... err... er... you are punk-rocker, now!

                            There are retrocomputing and permacomputing people here in Fedi, and sure you would not complain that their beloved 8bits don't support IPv6 (or whatever other hype of last 50 years).

                            Anyway, this federation of reply-guys mostly and I hope my punksplaining is not too much πŸ™‚

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                              @internetsdairy ok, but you can say the same about most artistic movements of the past πŸ™‚

                              It is image. You published it with ALT text for image, which made it accessible... for people, who are in the Fedi already, ok. But this was not intended for people, who are in the Fedi, but for people, who like the visual style of given fanzine. Because most of the read it exactly because of the nostalgic 1980s-1980s underground visual style...

                              If Fediverse gets promoted in an e-zine printed in Braille, the URL will be written in Braille. Not all target groups are created equal. The very idea of subculture is idea of certain exclusive club, in fact. Because the exclusivity created kind of safe space, of different kind, than what is needed today, but the result was generally the same, as Fediverse.

                              It looks like allpunxpleaseleavemeta.com is actually not an URL! So complaining about non-URL being non-readable is well... err... er... you are punk-rocker, now!

                              There are retrocomputing and permacomputing people here in Fedi, and sure you would not complain that their beloved 8bits don't support IPv6 (or whatever other hype of last 50 years).

                              Anyway, this federation of reply-guys mostly and I hope my punksplaining is not too much πŸ™‚

                              @gbargoud

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                                @gbargoud ok, but this means, that there is typo in the ALT text! I removed the extra dot, of course, there is really "ks" and not "x".

                                So really... adding misleading ALT text to image is very un-fedivers-ish, I am afraid πŸ™‚ Well, myself I am of course guilty of adding slightly brief and unhelpful ALT texts, because I refuse to generate them using AI, but at least, I don't miss-spell URLs in my ALT text, and well, err, I am not really sure, how elderly former punk-rock fan is really expected to express anger in his 50's, but ... this is not even proper fascist regime, or something like this!

                                @internetsdairy

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                                  My wife picked up a zine that is advertising the fediverse.

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                                  @internetsdairy that’s right! silicon valley pretends to be the punks, while dancing the Mussolini. We don’t dance the Mussolini here!

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                                    My wife picked up a zine that is advertising the fediverse.

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                                    @internetsdairy that’s seriously cool.

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                                      @gbargoud ok, but this means, that there is typo in the ALT text! I removed the extra dot, of course, there is really "ks" and not "x".

                                      So really... adding misleading ALT text to image is very un-fedivers-ish, I am afraid πŸ™‚ Well, myself I am of course guilty of adding slightly brief and unhelpful ALT texts, because I refuse to generate them using AI, but at least, I don't miss-spell URLs in my ALT text, and well, err, I am not really sure, how elderly former punk-rock fan is really expected to express anger in his 50's, but ... this is not even proper fascist regime, or something like this!

                                      @internetsdairy

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                                      @xChaos @internetsdairy

                                      Yes it was definitely on purpose and not a mistake because the font is hard to read

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                                        @gbargoud ok, but this means, that there is typo in the ALT text! I removed the extra dot, of course, there is really "ks" and not "x".

                                        So really... adding misleading ALT text to image is very un-fedivers-ish, I am afraid πŸ™‚ Well, myself I am of course guilty of adding slightly brief and unhelpful ALT texts, because I refuse to generate them using AI, but at least, I don't miss-spell URLs in my ALT text, and well, err, I am not really sure, how elderly former punk-rock fan is really expected to express anger in his 50's, but ... this is not even proper fascist regime, or something like this!

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                                        @xChaos @gbargoud ....thank you for pointing out the error in the alt, which I misread, because the typeface is ambiguous. I have corrected it

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                                          @internetsdairy ok, but you can say the same about most artistic movements of the past πŸ™‚

                                          It is image. You published it with ALT text for image, which made it accessible... for people, who are in the Fedi already, ok. But this was not intended for people, who are in the Fedi, but for people, who like the visual style of given fanzine. Because most of the read it exactly because of the nostalgic 1980s-1980s underground visual style...

                                          If Fediverse gets promoted in an e-zine printed in Braille, the URL will be written in Braille. Not all target groups are created equal. The very idea of subculture is idea of certain exclusive club, in fact. Because the exclusivity created kind of safe space, of different kind, than what is needed today, but the result was generally the same, as Fediverse.

                                          It looks like allpunxpleaseleavemeta.com is actually not an URL! So complaining about non-URL being non-readable is well... err... er... you are punk-rocker, now!

                                          There are retrocomputing and permacomputing people here in Fedi, and sure you would not complain that their beloved 8bits don't support IPv6 (or whatever other hype of last 50 years).

                                          Anyway, this federation of reply-guys mostly and I hope my punksplaining is not too much πŸ™‚

                                          @gbargoud

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                                          @xChaos @gbargoud yes, people can absolutely do what they want with art and computing etc . Ideally, information design should be different, though. I'm a designer, partly, so I pick up on something like a URL being difficult to read, it's frustrating because it's self sabotaging.

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