This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.
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And a "
MOM" tattoo... but that is something an ant *would* have if she could have a tattoo... on her huge muscles...@futurebird
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Well,it's a "real" journal. IDK how it rates among scientific journals.
But of course, science journals are more interested in communication of the science than in the quality of the art.
First I've heard of a "graphical abstract", though -- that's new. I wonder if that's part of the article proper, or just something for the website?
@TerryHancock @futurebird
I think I've been seeing graphical abstracts much more during the last 10 years or so? Before, graphical abstracts seemed rare. Wikipedia claims they go back to the 1970s! Of course it's no wonder that they couldn't catch on back when printing of readable graphical figures was so hard. Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling. -
@TerryHancock @futurebird
I think I've been seeing graphical abstracts much more during the last 10 years or so? Before, graphical abstracts seemed rare. Wikipedia claims they go back to the 1970s! Of course it's no wonder that they couldn't catch on back when printing of readable graphical figures was so hard. Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling."Now I'm sure they'll become the norm as soon as scientists have the time and funding to add a graphical design degree to all their usual schooling."
Perfect.
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This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.
(The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )
I will not comment on the "ant muscles"
Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?
I haven't seen all that many instances of this extreme of a drawing style among ant biology colleagues.
Cell is typically a well-regarded journal, although not one that is regularly read by many ant biologists.
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This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.
(The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )
I will not comment on the "ant muscles"
Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?
@futurebird this might actually be brilliAnt, not only because the image rules, but also because it's definitely not ai generated, probably setting the paper apart nowadays
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Cell is an extremely prestigious journal. I dont want to say "good". In many ways I think of the entire journal system as evil.
I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.
The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.
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I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.
The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.
What makes the fake sites even more annoying is sometimes the papers there ARE good papers. They are just mixed in with bad ones and total junk.
Which is what the point of having a journal is supposed to be "look here is some good research worth reading and we think they did a good job"
*sigh*
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@futurebird
Looks like it's still quality science to me.Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.
But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)
I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.
I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!
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This is a graphic from a paper on ants but it looks like something I drew in a boring meeting.
(The point it's making is an interesting one, all ants can do all jobs, and you don't need to inject them to make it happen, they will just switch if the job isn't being done. But, I think they found a way to trigger this switch in the paper which would be ... huge, honestly. )
I will not comment on the "ant muscles"
Is everyone interested in ants just... weird?
Just in case any of you missed this gem. I think everyone should see this drawing.
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Honestly the more I look at it the more I like it. The way their heads are drawn is very realistic.
But, I wish they'd shown that minims do "defense" work too. Older minims will ride on the leaves the majors carry and help protect the major's big juicy head from parasites (and also help clean and prep the leaf in transit.)
I wonder what triggers THAT behavior.
I need to get the pdf of this paper badly now!
@futurebird do you know about contacting the paper 1st author directly to ask for a copy?
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@futurebird do you know about contacting the paper 1st author directly to ask for a copy?
People are usually delighted someone wants to read their paper.I have a lot of luck doing this when it's not a big popular journal. In this case I will wait and the pdf will probably show up in time. Or go to the library. I need to go for a bunch of other things anyways.
But this is great if the authors aren't getting spammed because they published in something popular.
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Is "Cell" a good journal?
@futurebird Cell is one of those journals that, if you are in my field (neurobiology) and you publish in it, you will probably get a job. So by conventional standards of academic journals, yes, extremely good.
They've been promoting graphical abstracts for a long time. Usually they are things like diagrams of biochemical signalling pathways or that sort of thing, actually quite helpful. I love what the authors did with this one.
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I'm just asking because there are some "journals" that have websites that look like they are a real journal and they publish ... anything. No standards. I think people just pay them to publish things. And the only way to tell is to look at a lot of papers on the site and check their citations, and that only works if you know the field a little.
The other option is to simply ask some people if the site is any good or not. Ideally people who might know.
Cell has made 9 retractions since 2020 according to
the searchable database atl https://retractionwatch.comRetraction Watch has some interesting tales.
Cell Press won’t retract papers despite one author confessing to fraud
Cell Press journals will not be retracting two papers that were flagged with expressions of concern (EOCs) in April after one author claimed to have manipulated some experiments. In a strange turn of events, as we previously reported, the study’s corresponding author refuted the claims of the author who confessed to fraud, citing concerns about…
Retraction Watch (retractionwatch.com)
Going further back: http://thecostofknowledge.com
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Cell has made 9 retractions since 2020 according to
the searchable database atl https://retractionwatch.comRetraction Watch has some interesting tales.
Cell Press won’t retract papers despite one author confessing to fraud
Cell Press journals will not be retracting two papers that were flagged with expressions of concern (EOCs) in April after one author claimed to have manipulated some experiments. In a strange turn of events, as we previously reported, the study’s corresponding author refuted the claims of the author who confessed to fraud, citing concerns about…
Retraction Watch (retractionwatch.com)
Going further back: http://thecostofknowledge.com
