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As human teams get bigger, they get less efficient.

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    As human teams get bigger, they get less efficient. But these ants have found a solution
    https://theconversation.com/as-human-teams-get-bigger-they-get-less-efficient-but-these-ants-have-found-a-solution-261677

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      As human teams get bigger, they get less efficient. But these ants have found a solution
      https://theconversation.com/as-human-teams-get-bigger-they-get-less-efficient-but-these-ants-have-found-a-solution-261677

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      @DaveWhittle "We encouraged ants to form chains to pull an artificial paper leaf attached to a force meter which continuously monitored their collective force output." Cool 😄

      Ants defeat the Ringelmann effect (= "as more team members join the group, the effectiveness of each individual ... gets worse").

      @futurebird will probably like this experiment 🙂

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        As human teams get bigger, they get less efficient. But these ants have found a solution
        https://theconversation.com/as-human-teams-get-bigger-they-get-less-efficient-but-these-ants-have-found-a-solution-261677

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        @DaveWhittle Ants don't use AI! @futurebird is that their secret?

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          @DaveWhittle Ants don't use AI! @futurebird is that their secret?

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          @Em @DaveWhittle @futurebird

          Unlike humans, individual weaver ants have no personal autonomy or independent goals. Their behaviour is genetically programmed to serve the colony’s needs, with survival and reproduction tied entirely to the hive. In this sense, there are no individuals in the human sense – only specialised roles within a single superorganism (hmmmm sounds interesting, did someone say slaves? Human slavery ? Nahhh)

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            @Em @DaveWhittle @futurebird

            Unlike humans, individual weaver ants have no personal autonomy or independent goals. Their behaviour is genetically programmed to serve the colony’s needs, with survival and reproduction tied entirely to the hive. In this sense, there are no individuals in the human sense – only specialised roles within a single superorganism (hmmmm sounds interesting, did someone say slaves? Human slavery ? Nahhh)

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            @mojo @Em @DaveWhittle

            "Unlike humans, individual weaver ants have no personal autonomy or independent goals."

            I don't think I'd describe ants this way. First of all they are very simple. They are insects. Their goals are things like "make home more secure" or "find food" etc.

            They do have individual goals and pretty much do whatever they want. The difference is they are all focused on doing things to benefit the colony.

            They even get in little tug of war matches over how to BEST help.

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              "Unlike humans, individual weaver ants have no personal autonomy or independent goals."

              I don't think I'd describe ants this way. First of all they are very simple. They are insects. Their goals are things like "make home more secure" or "find food" etc.

              They do have individual goals and pretty much do whatever they want. The difference is they are all focused on doing things to benefit the colony.

              They even get in little tug of war matches over how to BEST help.

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              @mojo @Em @DaveWhittle

              Ants aren't like a swarm of robots controlled by a central computer. They are more like very serious cult where everyone is obsessed with growing the colony and making a new generation of queens.

              They can get into conflict about HOW to do this, but they all agree on what needs to be done.

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