Ursula is okay, but here are a couple of broads who knock her for a loop. Joanna Russ was one of the first 'out' science fiction writers. If you want an adventure, try 'Picnic On Paradise.' Or get deeper with 'The Female Man' https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=joanna+russ Suzy Mckee Charnas. 'Walk To the End of the World' is 'The Handmaid's Tale' raised to an infinite power. After the War, the elites were locked in fallout shelters. Eventually the males decided that it was all the women's fault. Now centuries later, all the women are slaves. https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=suzy+mckee+charnas

No love for Nancy Kress?

Had to look her up. I think I might have started one of her books and noped out. I'll check my library. But now I'll throw you two more. Robyn Bennis. https://bookshop.org/p/books/by-fire-above-robyn-bennis/82ed3b400af9da8e Airships fighting in the Napoleonic Era. The only fantasy element is that they have access to helium. She does a magnificent job engineering her armada. Tanith Lee. https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=tanith+lee She basically invented weird fantasy. Neil Gaiman stole all his best stuff from her.

> I think I might have started one of her books and noped out. I’ll check my library. [*Beggars in Spain*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beggars_in_Spain) was my first intro to her, and [Ej-Es](https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/ej-es/) (free to read link) sticks out in my mind. She explores ethics/politics in sci-fi along with female sexuality, though more old school. People have said she's got Ayn Rand vibes, but she's not, some of her characters take on those characteristics so that she can tear them later

I got Nancy Kress confused with Ann Leckie. I started Ancillary Justice and wasn't impressed. Looks like we don't overlap much, but that's cool. Enjoy your holidays

Oh shame. I knew it took me ~10 pages to get into the flow of her writing, and I struggled up til then. In terms of interest overlap: tentatively ask, thoughts on Andy Weir?

I liked 'The Martian' and 'Project Hail Mary.' I think he's a grade A++ plotter and a grade B- writer. On the other hand, 'Project...' was being narrated by the character, so maybe that's the way the character writes? Of all the writers I mentioned, I'd put Tanith Lee at the top for her prose. She can create an entire world in a few paragraphs.

Ah we are different then. I genuinely do not enjoy his writing, and find his characters all interchangeable and quirky because he says so. The science is tacked on like a chemistry teacher putting their kids to bed. I'll check out Tanith Lee, thanks for the recommendation. Please check out the Ej-Es story I linked too

Ah we are different then. I genuinely do not enjoy his writing, and find his characters all interchangeable and quirky because he says so. The science is tacked on like a chemistry teacher putting their kids to bed. I'll check out Tanith Lee, thanks for the recommendation. Please check out the Ej-Es story I linked too

Dwarf gonna carve the sides, not the strikeface which will get damaged and does it's job better when flat.

Ursula le'guinn wrote a novel with this premise!

Ursula is okay, but here are a couple of broads who knock her for a loop. Joanna Russ was one of the first 'out' science fiction writers. If you want an adventure, try 'Picnic On Paradise.' Or get deeper with 'The Female Man' https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=joanna+russ Suzy Mckee Charnas. 'Walk To the End of the World' is 'The Handmaid's Tale' raised to an infinite power. After the War, the elites were locked in fallout shelters. Eventually the males decided that it was all the women's fault. Now centuries later, all the women are slaves. https://bookshop.org/beta-search?keywords=suzy+mckee+charnas

The Female Man is hella transphobic.

So like a regular married couple?

2 of 2 Forgot to say that I read the story. I liked it.

The Female Man was written in 1975. Sorry that a book written fifty years ago isn't up to date in its approach.

Why should the date matter?