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Genshin Impact Will Soon Require Age Verification in the United States
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What are they requesting for age verification?
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Deleting friends lists seems pretty extreme for being late to verify your age? What age are they requiring? 18?
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Killing off your largest player base. Smooth.
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> This appears to be a direct consequence of a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which had charged HoYoverse with deceiving minors into spending for their loot boxes. The Chinese developer was subsequently banned from selling them to users under 16 without a parent's express consent, paid a $20 million fine to the FTC, and was also subject to the following stipulations: > - Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money; > - Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices and features; > - Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency; > - Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and > - Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements. @Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com @JoMiran@lemmy.ml
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> This appears to be a direct consequence of a recent settlement with the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which had charged HoYoverse with deceiving minors into spending for their loot boxes. The Chinese developer was subsequently banned from selling them to users under 16 without a parent's express consent, paid a $20 million fine to the FTC, and was also subject to the following stipulations: > - Prohibited from selling loot boxes using virtual currency without providing an option for consumers to purchase them directly with real money; > - Prohibited from misrepresenting loot box odds, prices and features; > - Required to disclose loot box odds and exchange rates for multi-tiered virtual currency; > - Required to delete any personal information previously collected from children under 13 unless they obtain parental consent to retain such data; and > - Required to comply with COPPA, including its notice and consent requirements. @Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com @JoMiran@lemmy.mlThe why is rarely argued. The how is always the point of contention. That's why I am wondering what they are asking for age verification.
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The why is rarely argued. The how is always the point of contention. That's why I am wondering what they are asking for age verification.
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I don't understand what you mean. They're clearly requesting ages over 13 and disabling purchases for those under 16.I am asking **how** will they verify the age?
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Yeah, if the end consequence is creating a giant database of photos of US ID's (and storing which accounts theyre associated with as a nice bonus) then that is, in my opinion, not great. I understand Discord is already rolling out ID verification in the UK and their solution is to use a 3rd party service (you send them your, they just send discord a "is over 18? YES/NO). Personally I don't think thats much better but it won't be Discord's own liability when they find out call center employees in India or Vietnam are using the images of your ID to sell online or something.
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Killing off your largest player base. Smooth.People say that, but kids under 16 probably aren't the majority of people spending thousands in gachas. They usually don't have money.
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Rare US W ?
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Dang there is a lot of hate for this game here, like it's definitely not the best game ever but it is one of the most compelling mobile experiences out there, with a decent story that has some great moments, and it can absolutely be played completely for free without missing out on much. The only thing spending money is good for is specific characters and weapons, none of which are required, and you can absolutely save up from playing for free and get almost any of those characters/weapons without spending a dime. It's not for everyone but I feel like this game gets a lot of hate simply for the Chinese origin, cartoony style, and microtransactions without any actual knowledge of what it's like to play it.
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Dang there is a lot of hate for this game here, like it's definitely not the best game ever but it is one of the most compelling mobile experiences out there, with a decent story that has some great moments, and it can absolutely be played completely for free without missing out on much. The only thing spending money is good for is specific characters and weapons, none of which are required, and you can absolutely save up from playing for free and get almost any of those characters/weapons without spending a dime. It's not for everyone but I feel like this game gets a lot of hate simply for the Chinese origin, cartoony style, and microtransactions without any actual knowledge of what it's like to play it.If it was an American deveper making Genshin, I would be just as, or even more disgusted with it. It's not sinophobia, it's that the game is pure cringe that commodifies and hypersexualizes young girls. The whole waifu sim genre is the gateway to the Manosphere, and part of the same toxic sociatal problem.
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Dang there is a lot of hate for this game here, like it's definitely not the best game ever but it is one of the most compelling mobile experiences out there, with a decent story that has some great moments, and it can absolutely be played completely for free without missing out on much. The only thing spending money is good for is specific characters and weapons, none of which are required, and you can absolutely save up from playing for free and get almost any of those characters/weapons without spending a dime. It's not for everyone but I feel like this game gets a lot of hate simply for the Chinese origin, cartoony style, and microtransactions without any actual knowledge of what it's like to play it.> The only thing spending money is good for is specific characters and weapons, none of which are required, and you can absolutely save up from playing for free and get almost any of those characters/weapons without spending a dime. This is dramatically underselling the gacha loop. There is absolutely a ceiling for F2P content, where grinding to progress becomes unbelievably time consuming. It's deep in the game, I'll grant that, but that's the point - like every mobile game, you're meant to get completely hooked on the progression loop with fast early rewards, then each loop drags longer and longer and longer until you either have to abandon the game entirely or start P2W. It's not that hard to get characters and items, but the FOMO system is ridiculous. Just invested all the grinded resources you had to mercy pull a character you've had your eyes on? Guess what, the next patch just launched an even *better* character, or the next banner brought back a 5* that is so meta for your team comp that getting that character will exponentially increase your damage output. Now you have a limited amount of time to grind all that shit again, or let the banner pass and wait for that massive improvement to your team comp to be available some months/years into the undefined future. And actually upgrading those items and characters to be useful in late game content? Time to fork over $$, or at least dozens of hours grinding out dungeons that you can only play on certain days and with a limited number of the same daily grind resources that are required for every different type of progression from level ups to ascensions to gold to skill upgrades... the same materials that you *can also buy*. Basically, the "good" parts of Genshin are specifically (and very effectively) designed to increasingly consume your time or your money. There is nothing "good" about it because it's all just a massive investment in stealing away your life or your life savings. They didn't make all that awesome content for you to have fun - they made it so that you don't notice when your brain starts telling you "I've put hundreds of hours into this game, $5 is totally worth all that time... just $20 and maybe I'll get that character or skip the next 30 hours of grinding... if I spend $100 I'll get all the stuff I want at a discount, and then I won't have to grind for awhile... except I still *need* to keep progressing and now that I've skipped ahead by investing money, the gacha loop is even *more* punishing now, but I'm locked in an ever spiralling sunk cost fallacy now" And yeah, don't even get me started on the sexualization. What the actual fuck.
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TDLR: "If you don't give us PII information within a made up deadline, we will deny you access to any content you paid in the past."Blame the US for declaring that US minors are too stupid and US parents too neglectful to pay attention to what is purchased online. They have to kick off kids from their game, legally, and nearly all mobile and online games that have any way to spend real money will be doing the same within the next year.