I like ancient Egyptian lore and culture, but if a pharaoh is ever depicted in the "smiting the enemies" post I can't help but assume he was a real jerk I wouldn't have liked at all.
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I like ancient Egyptian lore and culture, but if a pharaoh is ever depicted in the "smiting the enemies" pose (holding a raised club) I can't help but assume he was a real jerk I wouldn't have liked at all.
IDK maybe I'd feel different if the sea people and the desert folk kept stealing my cow...? but even then. Ugh. So gauche.
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I like ancient Egyptian lore and culture, but if a pharaoh is ever depicted in the "smiting the enemies" pose (holding a raised club) I can't help but assume he was a real jerk I wouldn't have liked at all.
IDK maybe I'd feel different if the sea people and the desert folk kept stealing my cow...? but even then. Ugh. So gauche.
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@futurebird I think that Egypt and the pharaohs mean entirely different things to you and me
IDK there is like 5k years of history I think everyone can find something to like and things to hate in all of that.
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IDK there is like 5k years of history I think everyone can find something to like and things to hate in all of that.
@futurebird certainly one can. I tend to think of Egypt as the original archetype of tyranny, and I haven't really looked for anything else, because it's a useful bit of mythology, in the sense that it gives me a vocabulary to think of certain things which is also linked to my own history and present. I don't begrudge anyone else's finds though
And of course, despite anything Pharaoh might say, Pharaoh isn't Egypt!
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I like ancient Egyptian lore and culture, but if a pharaoh is ever depicted in the "smiting the enemies" pose (holding a raised club) I can't help but assume he was a real jerk I wouldn't have liked at all.
IDK maybe I'd feel different if the sea people and the desert folk kept stealing my cow...? but even then. Ugh. So gauche.
@futurebird
It's a weak pose. Only the pharaohs with something to prove use it. -
@futurebird certainly one can. I tend to think of Egypt as the original archetype of tyranny, and I haven't really looked for anything else, because it's a useful bit of mythology, in the sense that it gives me a vocabulary to think of certain things which is also linked to my own history and present. I don't begrudge anyone else's finds though
And of course, despite anything Pharaoh might say, Pharaoh isn't Egypt!
I think Rome and The Catholic Church can also play those roles from time to time. But really most "great powerful men(and people)" tend to be kind of awful. I don't know if the Egyptians were worse. They did have good branding, though.
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@futurebird
It's a weak pose. Only the pharaohs with something to prove use it.That's kind of most of them at one point or another... but I do think it could be correlated with the empire being under threat or easing towards decline.
I just wonder if any of the Egyptian people rolled their eyes like I do. Some must have, right?
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I think Rome and The Catholic Church can also play those roles from time to time. But really most "great powerful men(and people)" tend to be kind of awful. I don't know if the Egyptians were worse. They did have good branding, though.
@futurebird @alter_kaker
Egyptians, even Pharaohs, were from different ethnic groups over those 5k years. Exodus shows a wise Pharaoh followed by a paranoid ethnic cleanser from an invader dynasty.Shaul was awful. Ashurbanipal was awful.
Power over people is sought by awful people. And sometimes they get that power and they become awful.
No king, no matter how righteous, protects their people from their royal descendants.
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