Jose Vega has announced that he will challenge my congressman Ritchie Torres.
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There is a LaRouche foundation and I think Jose has raised a little money and has support from the rather modest, if sometimes loud and obnoxious non-profit.
Torres is in big trouble so we need to find someone to run or this guy might get in.
I do not want to hear about the left wing version of Jewish space lasers from my congressman. pleas.
@futurebird time to start your political career!
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@futurebird
You are being more polite than I could describing Lyndon Larouche and his acolytes.IDK why they won't go away. I guess it's the damn foundation.
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@futurebird time to start your political career!
HELL NO
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@futurebird time to start your political career!
Listen, if I find someone I can respect I'll do their stats and mailing lists for them. I will do it for free.
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The particular part of the Bronx where I live has a long history of radical politics. Most people who live here and remember it don't have warm memories of some of the things that happened because it came during a time of historic disinvestment.
LaRouchies are ostensibly "left wing" but sometimes they will traffic in total conspiratorial nonsense. These are people who are deeply alienated. And often with good reasons.
@futurebird This never made sense to me, because LaRouche himself ran as a Democrat but was to the right of Reagan.
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Jose Vega has announced that he will challenge my congressman Ritchie Torres. Unfortunately, he's a LaRouchie. So... yeah. Not thrilled about THAT.
Jose Vega said he will not attempt to run for the Democratic nomination unless Torres has no Democratic challenger by January. If Torres has no challenger then he will enter the primary.
Jose is 26 years old. He seems like a nice young man, but I need to talk to him about the problem with LaRouchies...
@futurebird Not my district, but amazing that they managed to find a challenger so bad he'd make me vote for Torres.
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@futurebird Not my district, but amazing that they managed to find a challenger so bad he'd make me vote for Torres.
I don't think anyone "found" him the LaRouchies have noticed that Torres runs unopposed and are using this to raise their profile and may even get a few dozen new members from this.
The Democratic party has created a gap and they don't understand that SOMETHING will move in to fill it. and the something could be just ...ANYTHING.
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@futurebird Not my district, but amazing that they managed to find a challenger so bad he'd make me vote for Torres.
If he enters the primary he'll get a lot of protest votes, then bigger media will need to discuss them.
I think that's the goal.
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The particular part of the Bronx where I live has a long history of radical politics. Most people who live here and remember it don't have warm memories of some of the things that happened because it came during a time of historic disinvestment.
LaRouchies are ostensibly "left wing" but sometimes they will traffic in total conspiratorial nonsense. These are people who are deeply alienated. And often with good reasons.
@futurebird I would categorize most of their ideas as really more extreme-right, though many of the ideas eventually got folded into standard Republican Party politics. Their MO is usually to run Democratic primary candidates, though.
They were ahead of the curve in endorsing completely whack ideas about science. The claim you hear sometimes that some recent volcanic eruption emitted more of pollutant [x] (where [x] varies--it's usually greenhouse gases today) than all of human civilization? Comes originally from one of LaRouche's crank science journals, though the claim keeps mutating. I think it was originally about ozone-destroying chemicals (but false either way).
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@futurebird This never made sense to me, because LaRouche himself ran as a Democrat but was to the right of Reagan.
They constantly claim they are "Marxist" I don't even know what that means when they say it or what they think it means.
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@futurebird I would categorize most of their ideas as really more extreme-right, though many of the ideas eventually got folded into standard Republican Party politics. Their MO is usually to run Democratic primary candidates, though.
They were ahead of the curve in endorsing completely whack ideas about science. The claim you hear sometimes that some recent volcanic eruption emitted more of pollutant [x] (where [x] varies--it's usually greenhouse gases today) than all of human civilization? Comes originally from one of LaRouche's crank science journals, though the claim keeps mutating. I think it was originally about ozone-destroying chemicals (but false either way).
They were spreading COVID misinformation at my subway station too.
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I, however am a relentless practical person and I just want us to have good representation. Someone who isn't owned by a PAC, an industry or a movement.
Maybe it is too much to hope for.
@futurebird I am not willing to dismiss all movements as bad. Depending on the movement, loyalty to a movement could be a good thing, or at least compatible with good things, and in all but the worst cases (such as end-times religions), loyalty to a movement is far preferable to a PAC or an industry.
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@futurebird I am not willing to dismiss all movements as bad. Depending on the movement, loyalty to a movement could be a good thing, or at least compatible with good things, and in all but the worst cases (such as end-times religions), loyalty to a movement is far preferable to a PAC or an industry.
Maybe.
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They were spreading COVID misinformation at my subway station too.
@futurebird At the height of the AIDS pandemic they were spreading homophobic lies about that, claiming you could catch it as an airborne contagion and calling for gay people to be rounded up into camps.
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The particular part of the Bronx where I live has a long history of radical politics. Most people who live here and remember it don't have warm memories of some of the things that happened because it came during a time of historic disinvestment.
LaRouchies are ostensibly "left wing" but sometimes they will traffic in total conspiratorial nonsense. These are people who are deeply alienated. And often with good reasons.
@futurebird The LaRoucheies are climate deniers, fossil fuel industry stooges, and supporters of all manner of hard right nonsense. They haven't done anything "leftist" since the 1960s, and anyone who thinks they're still "leftist" has been living in a nonsense universe longer than I've been alive.
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IDK why they won't go away. I guess it's the damn foundation.
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@futurebird @ohmu wow, I thought they were long gone. I remember their street performers explaining how planetary orbits are based on geometric harmonics.
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You know I'm good. I don't want to know.
(I haven't seen them for two years but they were active during COVID around my neighborhood.)
