I've been adding most of the videos that I watch to the FediverseTV playlist, I think a lot about how Google has a rich history of the videos that I watch Yet, often people I know have never heard of any of it.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird I use freetube, which lets you easily subscribe to and watch youtube without a google account, no ads and you can turn off all suggested videos. So I can keep track of stuff I want to follow there, but don’t get sucked into watching other stuff by accident. (You can also subscribe to youtube channels via RSS for this, but then you still have to watch on the site and see “suggestions”)
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@futurebird Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
I also hope that the fediTV list could help people find what is worth supporting directly— based on what people are really watching.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird
All of the above for me. Physical media for the comfort shows I watch when I'm especially unwell, YouTube for mostly music and calming background things like train journeys or walking videos, and various free and paid streaming options for tv shows and movies. I didn't vote because I use all of them a LOT, since I have to spend so much time in bed. -
I find posting what I watch on the shared list, forces me to think a little bit more about what I watch.
If I watch something I don’t want to put on the list I think: WHY am I watching something that’s so low quality that I wouldn’t want the people I know to watch it as well?
Looking at all of the videos I’ve watched since this began makes me think about how I’m using my time. It’s a bit of accountability some of us might do together.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird I'm sorry to say, YT. I think I do a fair bit on Nebula, and the big streamers. But if I'm being honest, youtube prob inches up. I am not proud.
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@futurebird I use freetube, which lets you easily subscribe to and watch youtube without a google account, no ads and you can turn off all suggested videos. So I can keep track of stuff I want to follow there, but don’t get sucked into watching other stuff by accident. (You can also subscribe to youtube channels via RSS for this, but then you still have to watch on the site and see “suggestions”)
@bloodripelives @futurebird I have a few RSSes for youtube. And an extention to remove recommended vids (such a breath of air). But I still go to the home page for rec's.
I also have YT on roku, but not loged in. And worked the recommendation engin to most of what I watch.
Tho someone mentioned freetube, while i want to look into.
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@futurebird Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
@dobetterinstitute @futurebird I totally agree. But I don't like nebula. And having a bunch of different subscriptions to substack, pagreon, kofi etc I also don't like.
So I have started working on @fedipay fedipay.net
An open source, decentralised creator reward system so I can pay creators my way, with simple transactions ixeally eventually too -
@dobetterinstitute @futurebird I totally agree. But I don't like nebula. And having a bunch of different subscriptions to substack, pagreon, kofi etc I also don't like.
So I have started working on @fedipay fedipay.net
An open source, decentralised creator reward system so I can pay creators my way, with simple transactions ixeally eventually too@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay mailing cash! Crazy.
In Australia and Europe banking is easy. But the idea is a creator/contributor creates an account on a fedipay server.
They put their chosen way to receive payment there.
Eventually the servers will communicate with each other to settle up, and any remaining funds are transferred back out to their final place.
For now I am just building the actual server and extension for tracking (that you own and control) -
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay mailing cash! Crazy.
In Australia and Europe banking is easy. But the idea is a creator/contributor creates an account on a fedipay server.
They put their chosen way to receive payment there.
Eventually the servers will communicate with each other to settle up, and any remaining funds are transferred back out to their final place.
For now I am just building the actual server and extension for tracking (that you own and control)@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@futurebird @craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Mailing cash is less feasible if you want to support someone in a country that doesn't use the same currency as the country you live in.
I still have a 5 USD bill someone sent me a decade ago... -
@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
@futurebird @craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Loose cash can be extracted from envelopes without opening them by rolling bills w/a pair of small knitting needles and sliding them out. Wrapping cash in a piece of paper … -
I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird Lately mostly YouTube. Before that, mostly DVDs.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@craiglambie42 @futurebird @fedipay @dobetterinstitute We’ve had cash go missing in the mail a number of times this year. It used to work pretty reliably for grandkids birthdays.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay hard and expensive to send cash $1 to an eastern european, $1 to a canadian and $1 to a vietnamese guy....
But what if I sent $10 to fedipay.
and 100 other people did (1000).
Then fedipay worked out that the server in eastern europe needs ~333 and canada needs ~334 and vietnamese server needs ~333
Then the local server admin could use the local bank to send $1 to by bank transfer to the local developer - etc. -
@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@futurebird @craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay This might be of interest, a platform for creators with built-in payments, direct to the creators:
What is Free2Z? | Free2Z
Free2Z is a revolutionary platform designed to empower you and your community. With peer-to-peer donations, a revenue sharing program, and advanced creative tools, we enable you to monetize your work transparently and fairly. On Free2Z, you're not just another user — you're a partner in a collaborative and rewarding ecosystem.
(free2z.com)
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@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay hard and expensive to send cash $1 to an eastern european, $1 to a canadian and $1 to a vietnamese guy....
But what if I sent $10 to fedipay.
and 100 other people did (1000).
Then fedipay worked out that the server in eastern europe needs ~333 and canada needs ~334 and vietnamese server needs ~333
Then the local server admin could use the local bank to send $1 to by bank transfer to the local developer - etc.@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I think this is such an important problem to think about. Payment networks are networks of trust. Since IRL we don't experience "transaction fees" it easy to not understand why such fees are so hard to avoid when moving online.
I don't want to discourage you because it's upsetting how hard it is to extricate oneself from all of the big players in payments.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I think this is such an important problem to think about. Payment networks are networks of trust. Since IRL we don't experience "transaction fees" it easy to not understand why such fees are so hard to avoid when moving online.
I don't want to discourage you because it's upsetting how hard it is to extricate oneself from all of the big players in payments.
@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
To get philosophical: making currency is a primary function of a state. States have chosen to allow private entities to take this role in digital spaces, an abdication of state power. (The political reasons how and why this has happened are interesting.)
I once thought a "stateless currency" was possible. I now think that was very naive.
The currency *is* the state.
When the currency fails? so to the government.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I think this is such an important problem to think about. Payment networks are networks of trust. Since IRL we don't experience "transaction fees" it easy to not understand why such fees are so hard to avoid when moving online.
I don't want to discourage you because it's upsetting how hard it is to extricate oneself from all of the big players in payments.
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I totally agree, getting away from the big players is important.
In Australia we can easily pay other people with their phone number.
In the US it is hard - that is why Paypal and others came to be.
In the UK and EU, it is really simple, and free to do transfers.I imagine getting a community bank or building society involved to help with the actual money part - eventually that might solve multiple problems.
It would mean creators have to open an account -
@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
To get philosophical: making currency is a primary function of a state. States have chosen to allow private entities to take this role in digital spaces, an abdication of state power. (The political reasons how and why this has happened are interesting.)
I once thought a "stateless currency" was possible. I now think that was very naive.
The currency *is* the state.
When the currency fails? so to the government.
There is a kind of person who seeks to be the intermediary in all transactions: they fantasize that they should get a little tax on everything.
They seek transaction fees as others seek rents.
Those innocents who want "free and open exchanges" never see them coming. We need to learn to be more suspicious, avaricious or evil IDK.
"you just want to make money without even doing anything!" I cry with horror
They think: "yes, you clueless idiot that's the whole POINT"
