I'm trying not to post "surprised pikachu face" memes about all of the people discovering that tiktok is now censoring coverage of protests, and mentions of Epstein.
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"And whenever we try to tell them "hey, there is an alternative that won't screw you like that" they ignore us or even get mad at us."
To be fair. No one is hearing this. I've come to notice how there are big efforts made to migrate people to platforms. To recapture audiences in new spaces. This happens through media and influencers and I suspect some people spend a lot of money on it. Most people are simply not aware there is any other option.
@futurebird All I can say is when I try to I get either ignored or fussed at. I tried to get a few people who really shouldn't have stayed on X as long as they did and just got such a cold shoulder. They never came to Mastodon. I assume they're on Bluesky, but no longer have contact with them to really tell (my main contact with a lot of people was Discord, but I gave it up while there was still a chance that "delete my account" actually meant delete it and not just disable it but keep data.)
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"It's O.P.P. time, other people's, but you get it
There's no room for relationship, there's just room to hit it
How many brothers out there know just what I'm gettin' at?
Who thinks it's wrong 'cause I'm splittin' and co-hittin' that?
Well if you do, that's O.P.P and you're not down with it
But if you don't, here's your membership"It's totally about platforms.
I appreciate this wonderful throwback to lighter times.
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"It's O.P.P. time, other people's, but you get it
There's no room for relationship, there's just room to hit it
How many brothers out there know just what I'm gettin' at?
Who thinks it's wrong 'cause I'm splittin' and co-hittin' that?
Well if you do, that's O.P.P and you're not down with it
But if you don't, here's your membership"It's totally about platforms.
@futurebird
Down with OPP! You don’t own me! -
I'm trying not to post "surprised pikachu face" memes about all of the people discovering that tiktok is now censoring coverage of protests, and mentions of Epstein.
And I'm watching as everyone tramples over to Yet Another Corporate Platform where the same thing will happen in a few dozen months.
Ya'll need to get out for real.
Or at least have a backup that doesn't run on OPP (Other People's Platforms)
@futurebird oh no - it's almost as if thousands didn't predicted this well in advance....
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It’s sadly predictable. Many people are so focused on being wherever they perceive everyone one else is, that they don’t do any deep thinking about what pitfalls may exist in that location. Follow the money, ownership, and political influence, people. Sheesh!
️(I’m looking at YOU, Government of Canada…why are you still primarily posting on X?)
"Many people are so focused on being wherever they perceive everyone one else is"
To be fair ... this is part of the whole point of social media. To... be where the action is and all the people...?
I don't know how to break the cycle.
We've put some cracks in it though. That's something.
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@futurebird It truly is nothing short of amazing isn't it? Horrible things happen to them because of the nature of the platform, so what do they do? Just move to another of the same blasted thing. And then it hurts them, so they just move to another of the same thing.
And whenever we try to tell them "hey, there is an alternative that won't screw you like that" they ignore us or even get mad at us.
It's like Windows users complaining about Copilot + Recall wondering why we keep saying Linux
Think of it like someone who comes up to you and says:
"You just breathe air? You just ... drink water? You think a filter will matter? Listen. I make my air and water from raw elements at home. Keep it in this tank. I have total control of what I breathe and drink! This is why you keep getting allergies and keep finding out you need a new water filter."
It's logical but sounds like way to much work and a little crazy.
It's not though. Not once you get things running.
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Think of it like someone who comes up to you and says:
"You just breathe air? You just ... drink water? You think a filter will matter? Listen. I make my air and water from raw elements at home. Keep it in this tank. I have total control of what I breathe and drink! This is why you keep getting allergies and keep finding out you need a new water filter."
It's logical but sounds like way to much work and a little crazy.
It's not though. Not once you get things running.
@futurebird I don't think that's a fair analogy unless we reach the point that it costs you something to actually get air and water (beyond the relatively small amounts one spends on water right now) and they start injecting bad stuff into each.
Really I'm not sure there is a good analogy. This is sort of a thing that is kind of almost specific to tech. (I mean there are other things that can be similar-ish, but usually with a lot more complexity involved.)
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@futurebird I don't think that's a fair analogy unless we reach the point that it costs you something to actually get air and water (beyond the relatively small amounts one spends on water right now) and they start injecting bad stuff into each.
Really I'm not sure there is a good analogy. This is sort of a thing that is kind of almost specific to tech. (I mean there are other things that can be similar-ish, but usually with a lot more complexity involved.)
It's an analogy about how it *sounds* to people who don't think of software as something they could change, or make, or demand that it be different.
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It's an analogy about how it *sounds* to people who don't think of software as something they could change, or make, or demand that it be different.
@futurebird (I'll have to come back to this some time when I'm experiencing less incredible brainfog because I'm not quite getting it I guess.)
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@futurebird (I'll have to come back to this some time when I'm experiencing less incredible brainfog because I'm not quite getting it I guess.)
Sorry. Feel better. My metaphor is probably tortured in some way.
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I'm trying not to post "surprised pikachu face" memes about all of the people discovering that tiktok is now censoring coverage of protests, and mentions of Epstein.
And I'm watching as everyone tramples over to Yet Another Corporate Platform where the same thing will happen in a few dozen months.
Ya'll need to get out for real.
Or at least have a backup that doesn't run on OPP (Other People's Platforms)
@futurebird How about UpScrolled?
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@futurebird How about UpScrolled?
https://mastodon.neometropolis.net/@gazanotice/115963647805668757It has "investors"
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It has "investors"
@futurebird Well, all businesses do. Some might be the "right" type of investors.
Anyway, just a thought
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Sorry. Feel better. My metaphor is probably tortured in some way.
@futurebird @nazokiyoubinbou saw it out of context, thought it was perfect, then realized it wasn't about FOSS generally but social media specifically and i'm not 100% sure (but hardly <50% sure either) -
@futurebird LOL I don't think that's the meaning of "OPP" in the song.
Of course it doesn't. As my friend from Toronto hipped me, "O.P.P." stands for "Ontario Provincial Police".
(He laughed every time that song came on.)
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@futurebird Kinda suprised someone in the Fediverse doesn't have a surprised pikachu face bot.
@CowboyWho @futurebird why do you need a bot when there is
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"Many people are so focused on being wherever they perceive everyone one else is"
To be fair ... this is part of the whole point of social media. To... be where the action is and all the people...?
I don't know how to break the cycle.
We've put some cracks in it though. That's something.
Thing is, if someone has a large audience, and they tell their followers they’re going somewhere else…many will, um, follow them. I think there’s a lot of SM paralysis among people who could lead their audience to better environments.
Years ago, we decided to xeriscape (low water, native plant gardens) our front yard. We tore up our lawn and replaced with native plants. Tried to get next door neighbours do the same, but they were uncomfortable because “no one else is doing it.”
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"Many people are so focused on being wherever they perceive everyone one else is"
To be fair ... this is part of the whole point of social media. To... be where the action is and all the people...?
I don't know how to break the cycle.
We've put some cracks in it though. That's something.
There are SO MANY people I miss from twitter, because they went to Blue sky! Here's hoping they eventually make it over here
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I'm trying not to post "surprised pikachu face" memes about all of the people discovering that tiktok is now censoring coverage of protests, and mentions of Epstein.
And I'm watching as everyone tramples over to Yet Another Corporate Platform where the same thing will happen in a few dozen months.
Ya'll need to get out for real.
Or at least have a backup that doesn't run on OPP (Other People's Platforms)
@futurebird
From people I’ve talked to not on the Fediverse, the few who do try it out say it feels like a huge step backwards in terms of tech.
It’s like moving back to the era of Instant Messengers where you have to make effort to find the people you want to add to your friends list.
It’s like putting together an old-school paper-based address book for friends and family or other people you want to connect with.
Maybe older folks would understand the paradigm shifts needed to move to decentralized social media, but for anyone not familiar with how that all worked, it’s way too much effort for minimal gain since none of their social circles are moving off en mass to decentralized platforms.
Online communications used to be an extension of real-world relationships where you could continue in-person conversations after going home. Now, the platforms are optimized to try to completely supplant any need for the in-person aspect of communication and community. Since the platform becomes critical to maintaining relationships with friends and acquaintances, leaving those platforms feels like abandoning friends for little perceived benefit.
Just some opinions I’ve collected over the years from others. -
I'm trying not to post "surprised pikachu face" memes about all of the people discovering that tiktok is now censoring coverage of protests, and mentions of Epstein.
And I'm watching as everyone tramples over to Yet Another Corporate Platform where the same thing will happen in a few dozen months.
Ya'll need to get out for real.
Or at least have a backup that doesn't run on OPP (Other People's Platforms)
@futurebird it's time to stop investing in platforms that don't love you back
