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Thinking about how the human staff of any organization is an extension of their presence in the world.

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    Thinking about how the human staff of any organization is an extension of their presence in the world. Consider 100 employees, reasonably happy with their job. That's 100 people who will notice things that might hurt the company, organically promote it's reach, come up with new ideas for future projects.

    When some of the staff like their jobs less because you treat them poorly that shrinks. When you contract the work out? it shrinks more. When you replace them with AI it becomes a pinpoint.

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      Thinking about how the human staff of any organization is an extension of their presence in the world. Consider 100 employees, reasonably happy with their job. That's 100 people who will notice things that might hurt the company, organically promote it's reach, come up with new ideas for future projects.

      When some of the staff like their jobs less because you treat them poorly that shrinks. When you contract the work out? it shrinks more. When you replace them with AI it becomes a pinpoint.

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      The way that some "business leaders" seem to think, especially their behavior around AI makes me wonder if they are totally disinterested in building a powerful and persistent organization.

      For all the talk of "team members" and "sandwich artists" there are a lot of companies that aren't organized as collective projects at all.

      What I think they find even more difficult? the notion that all employees can have good ideas and their input can be valuable.

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        The way that some "business leaders" seem to think, especially their behavior around AI makes me wonder if they are totally disinterested in building a powerful and persistent organization.

        For all the talk of "team members" and "sandwich artists" there are a lot of companies that aren't organized as collective projects at all.

        What I think they find even more difficult? the notion that all employees can have good ideas and their input can be valuable.

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        You know who might know a lot about how to make sandwiches faster?

        The guy who makes dozens of them a day.

        But if you work at these companies you'd never tell them because they'd just cut your hours if they even bothered to listen and didn't somehow penalize you for being disruptive or complaining.

        If I ran a company I'd want everyone who worked their to brag about their job. This can happen.

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          The way that some "business leaders" seem to think, especially their behavior around AI makes me wonder if they are totally disinterested in building a powerful and persistent organization.

          For all the talk of "team members" and "sandwich artists" there are a lot of companies that aren't organized as collective projects at all.

          What I think they find even more difficult? the notion that all employees can have good ideas and their input can be valuable.

          Sean KleefeldS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @futurebird When I was working on my MBA twenty years ago, it was *regularly* brought up that C-suite execs were explicitly rewarded based on their near-term/quarterly performance and they have effectively zero incentive for working to improve things on any sort of time scale longer than that. They build things up as much as possible in the short term, everyone cashes out, and then they all move on to the next company. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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            @futurebird When I was working on my MBA twenty years ago, it was *regularly* brought up that C-suite execs were explicitly rewarded based on their near-term/quarterly performance and they have effectively zero incentive for working to improve things on any sort of time scale longer than that. They build things up as much as possible in the short term, everyone cashes out, and then they all move on to the next company. Wash, rinse, repeat.

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            @SKleefeld

            I think most more normal people like the idea of building something lasting and respected, so to the degree this happens it's because leadership isn't functioning as intended.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              You know who might know a lot about how to make sandwiches faster?

              The guy who makes dozens of them a day.

              But if you work at these companies you'd never tell them because they'd just cut your hours if they even bothered to listen and didn't somehow penalize you for being disruptive or complaining.

              If I ran a company I'd want everyone who worked their to brag about their job. This can happen.

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              @futurebird I think every tech company I ever interviewed with went to great effort to convince all prospective employees that they wanted everyone's job to be so great they'd brag about of their own accord.

              ... and all of those jobs were very bad jobs.

              there's a kernel of a good idea underneath it all, but capitalism attracts too many people who see it as just another way to manipulate people into yet another scam.

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                You know who might know a lot about how to make sandwiches faster?

                The guy who makes dozens of them a day.

                But if you work at these companies you'd never tell them because they'd just cut your hours if they even bothered to listen and didn't somehow penalize you for being disruptive or complaining.

                If I ran a company I'd want everyone who worked their to brag about their job. This can happen.

                myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                Simply insisting employees call each other "family" or having team building exercises won't do it either. These superficial changes can produce vapors of the benefits, in the long run everyone gets annoyed and makes fun of them relentlessly because they are just cynical surface level changes.

                The real changes are:
                1. Employees have input and a stake in how the business is run.
                2. Better compensation and benefits
                3. Better working conditions.

                It's not rocket science.

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