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Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI.

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    The questions are basically "how do you want AI to be used" without providing a real option to say "none of the above I don't want AI to exist in Firefox"

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    @chillybot "Holding corporations accountable for their AI products" is really the only good option to that question which doesn't admit much twisting. It's what I'd recommend selecting.

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      Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

      What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

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      @chillybot
      There is a narrative answer box if you skip to the bottom where you can just tell them: WOW! Award winning biased survey and also do not want AI polluting tech tooks I use and if you try to force AI on people no worries, someone will fill the void you leave while you die on the vine with the other douchebags.

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      • Dave Wilburn :donor:D Dave Wilburn :donor:

        @mttaggart @chillybot

        It's incredible how obtuse they are about their own user base, and what motivates someone to choose Firefox to begin with. Anyone who likes this crap is already perfectly happy using Chrome or Edge.

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        @mttaggart@infosec.exchange @chillybot@infosec.exchange @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange the thing is, this is their replacement for the revenue they lost due to the google antitrust lawsuit.
        instead of a search/ad engine paying them, AI Companies will do so now.

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          @mttaggart@infosec.exchange @chillybot@infosec.exchange @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange the thing is, this is their replacement for the revenue they lost due to the google antitrust lawsuit.
          instead of a search/ad engine paying them, AI Companies will do so now.

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          @Xyla @chillybot @DaveMWilburn That's not entirely accurate, as the remedies for that case did not prevent sweetheart deals like the one Moz has with Google for default placement.

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          • ? Guest

            Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

            What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

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            #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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            @chillybot action taken.

            I don't think I used the word "motherfuckers" enough, though.

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            • ? Guest

              @Xyla @chillybot @DaveMWilburn That's not entirely accurate, as the remedies for that case did not prevent sweetheart deals like the one Moz has with Google for default placement.

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              @chillybot@infosec.exchange @DaveMWilburn@infosec.exchange @mttaggart@infosec.exchange it didn’t but it did result in a loss of funding due to the scrutiny.

              as such Mozilla has been looking at other sources of income and the AI industry is throwing it around right now.

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              • ? Guest

                Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

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                (mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net)

                #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                @chillybot
                Hope they read the server logs & see my survey was submitted using @Vivaldi 🤭🤫

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                • ? Guest

                  I mean there are freetext inputs so you can and should say that, it's just not multiple choice options.

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                  @chillybot And then they ask for a donation.

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                  • ? Guest

                    I mean there are freetext inputs so you can and should say that, it's just not multiple choice options.

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                    @chillybot I absolutely made the most of those “Other” and free text fields to put Mozilla on blast RE: #AI

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                    • ? Guest

                      @chillybot It's too late: https://taggart-tech.com/mozilla-cycle-pt3

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                      @mttaggart

                      Thanks for this!

                      About the line "So of these organizations, 3 of them need to have flagship AI products by 2028."

                      It looks to me like that might be accidentally smushing together 2 different aims,

                      "All Mozilla orgs have a flagship AI product by 2028"
                      and
                      "3 Mozilla orgs have more than $25M in revenue (currently: 1)"

                      Or am I wrong?

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                        @mttaggart

                        Thanks for this!

                        About the line "So of these organizations, 3 of them need to have flagship AI products by 2028."

                        It looks to me like that might be accidentally smushing together 2 different aims,

                        "All Mozilla orgs have a flagship AI product by 2028"
                        and
                        "3 Mozilla orgs have more than $25M in revenue (currently: 1)"

                        Or am I wrong?

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                        @unchartedworlds MZLA is excluded from the requirement, I believe

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                          Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                          What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

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                          #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                          @chillybot My answers to the survey were basically "Want my data for your AI? Fuck you, pay me."

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                          • ? Guest

                            Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                            What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

                            favicon

                            (mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net)

                            #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                            @chillybot
                            I can't in honesty fill in such an absolutely broken survey!
                            It's got missing important questions.

                            They have totally lost the plot.

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                            • ? Guest

                              The questions are basically "how do you want AI to be used" without providing a real option to say "none of the above I don't want AI to exist in Firefox"

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                              @chillybot it won't matter but here's how i filled it out
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                              • ? Guest

                                Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                                What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

                                favicon

                                (mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net)

                                #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                                @chillybot Done. Noted in the commentary that very little of the survey was about developing a web browser and that we need a team that is focused on making a good web browser.

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                                  @chillybot "Holding corporations accountable for their AI products" is really the only good option to that question which doesn't admit much twisting. It's what I'd recommend selecting.

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                                  @dalias @chillybot It's not a radio group. You can leave that section blank. The survey does post if you decide none of the responses are valid.

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                                    Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                                    What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

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                                    (mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net)

                                    #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                                    @chillybot I took the survey and told them I want absolutely no AI anywhere near Mozilla. Thanks for sharing!

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                                      Mozilla's survey about the future of Mozilla and AI is terribly biased towards AI. Make your voices heard. Tell Mozilla to be stewards of privacy and the open web, to not use AI and to stop violating the trust of the users

                                      What Is Your Dream for Mozilla?

                                      favicon

                                      (mozillafoundation.tfaforms.net)

                                      #Privacy #NoAI #Firefox

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                                      @chillybot FYI to others: don't fall for the "choose three" thing; you can submit with just "other" selected.

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                                        I mean there are freetext inputs so you can and should say that, it's just not multiple choice options.

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                                        @chillybot my response to the final text box:

                                        ‘No AI at all. That technology is toxic and there is no way to use it ethically’

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