The argument would probably start with defining what RPG means. My local gaming journos for example used 'rpg elements' to describe multiplayer progression in CoD: MW games. Some people call Far Cry 3+ a sandbox\RPG. In a sense, topping the numbers may be seen as a sign of an aRPG like Borderlands\Diablo that do no involve roleplaying, but rather a munchkin reduction of the genre to stats, loot, etc. There are a lot of these numbers to empower your MC, including solid perks to acquire - like better weapon handling or rewards for working as a first responders. Nothing we haven't seen in arcade or action games, but either way people do consider this as a RPG influence at the very least. Actual roleplay, or rather choices defining your journey, like in choose-your-own-adventure books, are seemingly non-existent. You don't pick your character like you don't pick Geralt, but at the same time, you have little to no agency over what happens, unlike what's seen in Witcher. There are strict win and fail conditions, you can sometimes equip yourself better or pick your route from A to B, but from that understanding of RPG, it isn't one. What gives it a fleur of freedom is it being a big ol' sandbox where you can play with multiple toys and bend it's rules. I, therefore, would insist on calling it a sandbox action game with rpg-lite mechanics. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I actually have SR3 on GOG! I must get around to play it someday...

Yup, I'm actively avoiding Take2 because of the KSP2 scam. On that note, in case you weren't already aware: !kittenspaceagency@sh.itjust.works

GTA has sucked for awhile. I couldn’t care less. I will not be playing it

Sure, Jan.

People WILL move on. And then release is announced and they’ll all come flocking back. This is how the game industry works. Gamers have severe ADD and it doesn’t take long before they completely forget about what they disliked about the last game. Instead the developers will put some nostalgia in there to ensure even the people who didn’t like the last one will still buy the latest game because they’ll think back on their childhood. That nostalgia is the hook that pulls them back. Remember Diablo 3? It was a disaster that pissed off a ton of people. Then they came out with rereleased D2 and people flew back like stink on shit. It’s hilarious and sad at the same time. GTA6 will be the biggest and most popular IP to have released in a while and that alone will attract a shit ton of people. Then their friends will get in because they want to play the new hotness with their friend crew.

It’s just a game bruh

Have they commented on PC release?

The opening mission sets the tone incredibly well. If that kind of humor doesn't suit you, you probably wont enjoy the rest of the game. Otherwise, turn the brain off and nod along for a good time

Seems nigh impossible. GTA V is still making money hand-over-fist, and this will surely be a highly-polished incremental change. Everyone else competing for that market is *gone.*

I've got a couple of mates that only play fifa. They buy the new ones asap, they buy the new console to play them. They love that shit.

Rockstar is the greatest AAA dev there is. There’s no games as detailed as Rockstar games.

Couldn't agree more with the "outdated mission structure" comment. For a game series that's supposed to be about doing whatever the fuck you want, it sure is irritating when the game forces you to play the campaign exactly the way Rockstar wants you to. [Nakey Jakey sums up my feeling on Rockstar games quite nicely.](https://youtu.be/MvJPKOLDSos) I hope R* has the sense to address this issue in GTA VI, but I won't hold my breath. (Still going to buy it when it inevitably drops on PC, if for no other reason than to play the eventual SixM multiplayer mod. And who knows, maybe GTA Online won't have so many dropouts and endless loading screens this time...)

Remember when the first Animal Crossing came out and it straight up gave you a memory card because its save file literally used the entire thing? GTA 6 physical copies prolly gonna come with an SSD.

It's literally always had the same mission structure though, so I am not sure how the mission structure of the newer ones affect it as being the gold standard.

Got to love how a game that is centred around crime can be "woke".

The newer ones tell you that you're leaving the mission area, the older ones didn't really have that.

The only missions that do that are ones where you're in a race or chasing someone down. Which aren't new.

This is why I always kinda bounce off of their games story modes. Sometimes it really feels like you're the main actor and the entire scene goes to shit if you don't stand on the mark etc

Yeah I started getting really bored of the rdr2 missions at the end of the story. Sure the story and the world are great. But god damn every mission is just a pure shootout and that just sucks.