I suppose you didn’t hear about the new EULA for Take-Two/2K/Rockstar games eh? Long story short they have explicit permission to install a root kit on your system which is a popular type of malware. If the developers knowingly install a root kit on your system and someone who is savvy enough decides to abuse it, well… let’s just say the outcome isn’t pretty for the end-user. I love BL1 & BL2 but this is justification to put those games to rest or run them offline or in LAN.

The actual game files for Borderlands 2 haven’t been updated in several years. Sure, you could argue that the new TOS is just setting things up to quietly slip the spyware in later after the attention has waned. But as it currently stands, all of the new TOS stuff was just bringing their older games up to match their newer releases that are still being actively supported. Chances are very good that they never actually update Borderlands 2, and simply use the new TOS for future releases; It’s simply an indicator that their future releases will have some gnarly anti cheat bullshit bolted on. But that doesn’t make headlines, nor does it fuel gamers’ nebulous rage. And yes, the “chances are good” part means the chance is a non-zero number. If I told someone “the chances are good that this bowl of skittles won’t kill you,” how many skittles would you be inclined to eat?

Can't you just grab it and then restrict its internet access?

i know about that. i also know its quite overblown. their EULA is no different than all of them. but no malware has been installed.

Buuuuuuuuuut they changed the EULA and how it has root level access to your system. As in its literally spyware. Fuck free. You couldn't pay me to install this shit. Do so at your own risk. I want less massive corporations rooting around in my stuff. Not more.

absolutely worth it to get, btw. still play it to this day. and Borderlands 3 I think is like 2 dollars on steam at the moment. *absolutely* grab that.

So you can't play with friends? Isn't that like half of the fun of Bonerlands?

> You will not use exploits or illegal or unauthorised means to interfere with or adversely impact any other user’s ability to use the services as intended; to gain unfair gameplay advantage; or to gain access to virtual items or other content to which you do not have valid entitlement. This includes the use of cheats or so-called ‘mod menus’, unauthorised mods, hacks, glitches, or any other technical exploits, and phishing, scamming, or social engineering. In legalese, does 'this includes' mean 'additionally' or 'specifically'?

Please forgive my ignorance. What if we already have the game on Steam? Do I have to approve something? Or do they just have that access now?

Borderlands 3 has such insanely horrible writing though.

> i know about that. i also know its quite overblown. their EULA is no different than all of them. That’s quite an ignorant statement to make, just because you don’t care about what you sign up for doesn’t mean other’s don’t as well. > but no malware has been installed. a root kit is quite literally a type of malware, you agreed to malware being installed to your machine at any point in time.

> You will not use exploits or illegal or unauthorised means to interfere with or adversely impact any other user’s ability to use the services as intended; to gain unfair gameplay advantage; or to gain access to virtual items or other content to which you do not have valid entitlement. This includes the use of cheats or so-called ‘mod menus’, unauthorised mods, hacks, glitches, or any other technical exploits, and phishing, scamming, or social engineering. In legalese, does 'this includes' mean 'additionally' or 'specifically'?

Additionally. It's outlaying the parameters and then it goes on to give some common examples so a rational actor can get a good idea behind the meaning of the parameters. It's not an exhaustive list of all activities that could violate their parameters.