That's interesting. Does that mean that something like Monster Girls anime is acceptable for big-screen cinema, because it includes enough fantasy elements (and exotic body parts) to be considered artistic? It's still very much "intended to arouse", does the movie need to match both criteria to be considered porn?

Yeah, I'll agree that porn actually tried to do acting and storytelling back in the 70's. I miss it, kinda, but I think the pacing of having to watch 100 minutes of film for 5-6 7-minute sex scenes probably wouldn't fly today. In fact, I really agree with your whole comment. My point (if I had one, it was more of a quip) was that singling out the 70's for particularly bad porn acting isn't necessary. I do find it humorous there was such a reaction to my comment, but I like when posts lead to interaction and not just silent up-/down-votes. Also, I think Pirates! is considered to be the most expensive porn with a budget of $1 million. As MnemonicBump said, that's probably due to changing definitions. I'd love to see a limited return of high-brow porn, though.

Sorry to be that guy. This is a repost lol https://lemmy.world/post/18381887

There was this Supreme Court case in 1973 "Miller v. California, during which the Supreme Court basically decided that it has to be obscene in order to be considered pornography, and then the question became, "What is legally considered to be obscene?" From that case we derive something called the "Miller Test", which has three criteria: 1. Whether "the average person, applying contemporary community standards", would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest. 2. Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law. 3. Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. For a something to be considered pornographic, it must be ALL THREE criteria, with the first two criteria being left in the hands of local ordinances and governments, and the last being left sort of up to interpretation depending on a locality's culture and values.

The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Reminds me of that one time the village in the forest of spiders asked for our help against the resident spider queen. We defeated her. And the spiders. And her whole castle. And the entire forest. The entire village was forced to relocate elsewhere. The king of a nearby kingdom allowed them to settle in his lands, but the village had to traverse the desert to reach their destination. They never discovered it was our fault. On the bright side, we got the chance to loot their abandoned homes. Plenty of things the villagers couldn't carry in their odyssey through the desert. Fun times.

It’s the first time I’m seeing it. I’ll allow it

We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn. Burn, motherfucker, burn.

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That one is a higher quality image, too.

The rogue did it. We all saw her. She's always burning things.

Played an epic-level campaign where the players started at level 20 and they really didn't understand their own strength which led to shit like using an explosion spell in a tiny, unstable cave and getting trapped after it collapsed. But hey! They managed to kill a shitton of goblins in a single turn!

10 months is enough of a cool-down time for this meme.

"And we're _sooooooo_ evil! We don't have any friends, family, loved ones, children, pets, or other responsibilities! Here we are, a victimless crime waiting to happen!"

Oh, blackness shrouded in light, Frenzied blaze clad in night. In the name of the crimson demons, let the collapse of thine origin manifest.

2000 years later, their descendants would still wear little spiders around their necks and put fake cobwebs above their beds.

Well, I consider Backdoor Sluts 9 to be a work of art, so I guess it's not porn?

Dresden Files for the win, that's one of my favorite story openings.

Your party is an eldritch horror. "Be careful what you wish for"

It's not even the worst thing we did. A group of low-level bandits, desperate to raise some money for their family, attempted to rob us. I'm pretty sure the DM was expecting us to talk them down and start their side quest. We mercilessly killed them, taking our time to do so. My warlock locked one of them in our pocket dimension and waited for him to die of asphyxiation, then resurrected him, and killed him with again Finger of Death (which turns the victim into a zombie permanently under the caster's control). It became my vassal and I treated it like a high-ranking officer. Gave it a nice-looking helmet, too. We had a lot of fun together. During the final battle, it led my undead army (Danse Macabre upcasted to 9th level for shits and giggles) to victory. I shall not talk about the Fighter and Rogue's treatment of their respective bandits. I would normally say that death is a better outcome than eternal servitude as an undead, but I'm not sure that's the case here. We also bullied the nicest NPC ever to grace our table into becoming a Paladin of Vengeance, but that's a story for another day.