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    ![gaben winning by watching the competition be dumb](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/780/308/9f8.jpg)
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    People are underestimating how much money valve has put into proton, Mesa and Linux development over the years to make the steam deck work. they had 100+ developers on payroll for years to do that.
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      People are underestimating how much money valve has put into proton, Mesa and Linux development over the years to make the steam deck work. they had 100+ developers on payroll for years to do that.
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      Yes. But let's be honest: every store that has arrived to pc to "kill steam" has done what to actually kill steam? It's like every time someone thinks of creating a steam competitor the process goes like this: "Hey, let's see what is Steam doing well, what do users love about the store... And do the complete opposite to it in hopes that users ditch steam for us!"
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        Yes. But let's be honest: every store that has arrived to pc to "kill steam" has done what to actually kill steam? It's like every time someone thinks of creating a steam competitor the process goes like this: "Hey, let's see what is Steam doing well, what do users love about the store... And do the complete opposite to it in hopes that users ditch steam for us!"
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        totally with you on that.
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          Archive: https://archive.is/2025.07.04-040838/https://www.ft.com/content/f4a13716-838a-43da-853b-7c31ac17192c
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          I do have some concerns about what Valve will be like when Gaben passes away. I hope there's a worthy successor waiting in the wings.
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            People are underestimating how much money valve has put into proton, Mesa and Linux development over the years to make the steam deck work. they had 100+ developers on payroll for years to do that.
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            The Linux development is about maintaining a viable option for a store if Windows went walled garden.
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              People are underestimating how much money valve has put into proton, Mesa and Linux development over the years to make the steam deck work. they had 100+ developers on payroll for years to do that.
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              How much?
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                How much?
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                these were external developers. https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20221219-steam-valve-support-proton-mesa
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                  these were external developers. https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20221219-steam-valve-support-proton-mesa
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                  You made it sound like they had 100+ full time employees but it could also mean they paid €1 bounties to 101 people.
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                    I do have some concerns about what Valve will be like when Gaben passes away. I hope there's a worthy successor waiting in the wings.
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                    Unfortunately we don't need to wait. We have every reason to be skeptical and critical of the way Valve is run now, specifically how they promote underage gambling via Counterstrike. Whether Gaben personally agrees with that assessment, or whether he's wiped his hands clean of the damage his company has done, the fact is that _someone_ at Valve created this system, and they will still be there.
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                      Unfortunately we don't need to wait. We have every reason to be skeptical and critical of the way Valve is run now, specifically how they promote underage gambling via Counterstrike. Whether Gaben personally agrees with that assessment, or whether he's wiped his hands clean of the damage his company has done, the fact is that _someone_ at Valve created this system, and they will still be there.
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                      If you are vulnerable to gambling via lootboxes you are not old enough to play CS. Their parents should be more.invested in their hobby their children spent 70% of the day on
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                        People are underestimating how much money valve has put into proton, Mesa and Linux development over the years to make the steam deck work. they had 100+ developers on payroll for years to do that.
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                        I totally give them credit for that, but Steam was also a behemoth before all of that. They've been massive for over a decade at this point, maybe two. Everyone that's tried to be a competitor has come in **clearly** not understanding the basics of Steam's business model.
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                          If you are vulnerable to gambling via lootboxes you are not old enough to play CS. Their parents should be more.invested in their hobby their children spent 70% of the day on
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                          TIL only children develop gambling addictions.
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                            True. That whole gambling thing is pretty appalling. It's not like they can't make enough money without it, either.
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                              Yes. But let's be honest: every store that has arrived to pc to "kill steam" has done what to actually kill steam? It's like every time someone thinks of creating a steam competitor the process goes like this: "Hey, let's see what is Steam doing well, what do users love about the store... And do the complete opposite to it in hopes that users ditch steam for us!"
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                              Sometimes a market you don't even know exists opens up when you do something, so I get the logic of trying to open a competitor... But what did Origin or UPlay even do? Epic has freebies and a better profit share for publishers, GoG has their commitment to support old games, itch.io has the best profit share, indie focus, and I believe free listing? You need to do *something* to stand out from the monster that is Steam, or you might as well just stop.
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