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Japanese game developers face ridiculously high font license fees following US acquisition of major domestic provider. Live-service games to take the biggest blow

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    I don't think it's okay, but I also won't judge people with limited resources for using it for things that they realistically can't afford. I believe that humans should design every single aspect of any video game. Monotype has made that substantially more difficult. So, I won't judge a studio with limited resources if they use ai for this singular aspect of their otherwise completely human creation nearly as much as I would, say, Rockstar or EA or Activision. But there's also plenty of other ways to get a font, several people here have linked free options.
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      Just because a category is fuzzy doesn't make it invalid. That's whynwe have laws to force standardized definitions of various concepts. You arguing against whatever definition I proposed would indict only that definition, and not the broader concept that there is an important line to begin with.
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      So, as far as I can tell, your arguments are that that a normal font is nothing more than the alphabet, therefore there's no art in it, and therefore the creator shouldn't have any claim to it. My argument is that every detail is an artistic choice, and that simply making it look aesthetically pleasing or distinctive is art. If fonts weren't art, why would people even bother with different looking fonts? But regardless of the art question, if the creator can't license their fonts, it would mean that they get no compensation for when some company uses their work.
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        Monotype may as well be the mafia. My wife's work had to deal with those assholes, too, after they bought the rights to some font. They're just shaking companies down for cash.
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        >after they bought the rights to some font. Now That's What I Call Capitalism I'm already against the concept of "buying the rights" to anything, let alone buying the rights to something then *raising the cost to license it.* I would be burning fucking buildings down
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          So, as far as I can tell, your arguments are that that a normal font is nothing more than the alphabet, therefore there's no art in it, and therefore the creator shouldn't have any claim to it. My argument is that every detail is an artistic choice, and that simply making it look aesthetically pleasing or distinctive is art. If fonts weren't art, why would people even bother with different looking fonts? But regardless of the art question, if the creator can't license their fonts, it would mean that they get no compensation for when some company uses their work.
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          You understood my arguments correctly. But I have since had my mind changed by mindbleach@sh.itjust.works so please forgive my ignorance.
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            So design a couple fonts. It ain't rocket science.
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              > It’s also worth noting that in the case of games in Japanese, it’s not so easy for developers to find alternatives. While games using English can rely on system UI fonts, cheap commercial fonts or open-source options, the sheer number of characters used in Japanese means high-quality fonts are extremely difficult and expensive to make, so few affordable alternatives are available. There's already a decent selection of high quality, freely available Japanese fonts here: https://fonts.google.com/?lang=ja_Jpan
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              I'm guessing the problem is they want a relatively unique font to avoid looking the same as other games, and then once they've chosen their font they're pretty much stuck with it unless they're willing to change the look of their game (for live-service games at least). A number of the fonts there might work for new stuff though.
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                Excellent time for the Japanese to drop ideogram/logogram system and have an alphabet like a functional language.
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                1) that's literally one of the most bigoted comments I've ever seen in the fediverse 2) your comment is in English, a language so non-functional it's the only one that had to have spelling bees to get kids to learn its asinine rules
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                  You know what? You are right. That Wikipedia article was a fascinating read. I recant my previous statements uniquivocally, sincerely and unironically. Thank you for the humbling lesson on what it's like to be on the left side of the Dunning-Krueger curve. I'm an ignorant fuck.
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                  This is not what I expected when I clicked "show more replies."
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                    So design a couple fonts. It ain't rocket science.
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                    Japanese fonts are much harder to make than English fonts. Thousands of characters and all that.
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                      So design a couple fonts. It ain't rocket science.
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                      Kanji has over two thousand typical characters. Feel free to contribute several to open-source fonts.
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                        1) that's literally one of the most bigoted comments I've ever seen in the fediverse 2) your comment is in English, a language so non-functional it's the only one that had to have spelling bees to get kids to learn its asinine rules
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                        Uhh... Basically every language I can think of have had some form of childhood activity that pushed learning it's asinine rules at some point in it's history. Cause fun fact. Literally every language that has ever existed is batshit crazy, makes no sense and might as well be unhinged nonsense. That's not a monopoly English has. Not by a fucking long shot. That guy's comment is racist as fuck tho
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                          You know what? You are right. That Wikipedia article was a fascinating read. I recant my previous statements uniquivocally, sincerely and unironically. Thank you for the humbling lesson on what it's like to be on the left side of the Dunning-Krueger curve. I'm an ignorant fuck.
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                          Respect. You certainly don't see this everyday.
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                            Japanese fonts are much harder to make than English fonts. Thousands of characters and all that.
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                            Admittedly I'm not sure if it works for Japanese, but English has online tools you can use to print out a sheet to write out every character and scan to turn into a font file. Would be surprising if it didn't exist for Japanese. So ultimately you probably just need someone with neat handwriting.
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                              Uhh... Basically every language I can think of have had some form of childhood activity that pushed learning it's asinine rules at some point in it's history. Cause fun fact. Literally every language that has ever existed is batshit crazy, makes no sense and might as well be unhinged nonsense. That's not a monopoly English has. Not by a fucking long shot. That guy's comment is racist as fuck tho
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                              I also think it's an excellent time for Americans to drop imperial units and use metrics like a functional measurement system - is this also racist?
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                                Owning literal letters has got to be the dumbest shit I've heard in my life. Fucking leeches.
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                                  This is not what I expected when I clicked "show more replies."
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                                  Sorry to disappoint lol. It's bad enough I acted like a fool without oersisting in my folly through pride after realizing it.
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                                    Excellent time for Japanese devs to collectively develop some open-source fonts. Many hands make light work.
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                                    I don't mean to agree with that other person hating on kanji, but if they're going to take on the task of making a new font they could potentially alter the writing system somewhat to simplify some things and/or extend versatility of some characters. A new evolution would be exciting.
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                                      Admittedly I'm not sure if it works for Japanese, but English has online tools you can use to print out a sheet to write out every character and scan to turn into a font file. Would be surprising if it didn't exist for Japanese. So ultimately you probably just need someone with neat handwriting.
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                                      Someone with neat handwriting, a few hours to burn, and lots of patience
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                                        I also think it's an excellent time for Americans to drop imperial units and use metrics like a functional measurement system - is this also racist?
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                                        No, that's a whole new unrelated topic. Any other questions?
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                                          No, that's a whole new unrelated topic. Any other questions?
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                                          I think ideograms suck because they are an extremely bad writing system, and imperial units suck because they are an extremely bad measurement system... why is one racist and the other is not?
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