Yeah i haven't convinced a single person off of it. They complain anything else is too hard. I miss techy people from the early 2000s that didnt bitch about setting up voice servers.

Its true, the children are indoctrinated and dont know better. Unfortunately, we will lose.

There will not be a worth while competitor because the only way you can overcome the network effect is billion dollar marketing campaigns. And you don't get those without being on the same enshitification pipeline as discord.

Teamspeak seems to be the closest, but the newest versions bringing more discord-like features aren’t there yet. Maybe I just want to return to the old days lol.

Teamspeak is so close to being amazing. The *only* problems I have are that it’s not open source, and even when you self-host a ts server, a lot of data still goes through their servers. Oh also, I can’t screen share with audio on Linux

Why not [mumble](https://www.mumble.info/)?

Waiting on the eventual “‘Hackers’ leaked your transaction details through Discord’s in-app purchases.”

I finally bit the bullet and joined discord last year. Okay damn this is a pretty stable system with video streaming and voice chat. And the communities.

Discord unfortunately "just works". It's simple for people to add someone, type to them, call them voice or video, stream their screen. I don't think anything else does this as well as Discord, so it's borderline impossible to convince anyone who isn't a nerd to try some new option. Discord need to do a major fuckup to start an exodus. If Teamspeak didn't sit on it's ass for a decade, we would probably all still be using that.

Ban the entire business model.

Game publishers: We aren't predating on children fast enough. How will we ever achieve infinite money if we don't predate on children faster? Discord management: We can help with that.