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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

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  • stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.comS stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    well mostly it's explained by the fact that it didn't happen. "In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face. All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dínen. 'You cannot enter here,' said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. 'Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!' The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter. 'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade. Gandalf did not move." and then the Rohirrim arrive and the Rider leaves.
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      well mostly it's explained by the fact that it didn't happen. "In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face. All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dínen. 'You cannot enter here,' said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. 'Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!' The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter. 'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade. Gandalf did not move." and then the Rohirrim arrive and the Rider leaves.
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      > The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. I remember the chills I got when I read it for the first time. I'll be mad till my last breath at Peter Jackson for not including this in the movies.
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        Because Gandalf was a man, and the plot demanded it, perhaps?
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        He literally is not a man.
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          The sense is that Gandalf seemed too powerful and the director decided to humble him a bit to add tension.
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            > The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. I remember the chills I got when I read it for the first time. I'll be mad till my last breath at Peter Jackson for not including this in the movies.
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            Have to watch the Bakshi version for that! ![](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/54b235bf-cc01-480e-af7c-420766913148.png)
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              The sense is that Gandalf seemed too powerful and the director decided to humble him a bit to add tension.
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              And it was cool as fuck scene
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                The answer is pretty simple: Peter Jackson isn't nearly as good at telling a consistent story as Tolkien was. This scene isn't in the books.
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                ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                I wouldn't say that. I'd say he did a great job adapting text to a visual medium. In the text just having the sword light on fire in preparation works. When you see it played out, everyone is going to ask why he didn't take a swing before leaving.
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                  Have to watch the Bakshi version for that! ![](https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/54b235bf-cc01-480e-af7c-420766913148.png)
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                  THÖŪ FÖÖL NNNYA-AH-AH-AHHH
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                    I wouldn't say that. I'd say he did a great job adapting text to a visual medium. In the text just having the sword light on fire in preparation works. When you see it played out, everyone is going to ask why he didn't take a swing before leaving.
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                    This is exactly what the previous comment is saying. Jackson changed stuff for the movies to cater to mainstream movie audience expectations, at the cost of the worldbuilding and lore.
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                      This is exactly what the previous comment is saying. Jackson changed stuff for the movies to cater to mainstream movie audience expectations, at the cost of the worldbuilding and lore.
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                      ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                      Maybe having a guy that's totally invulnerable to the most powerful bad guys is actually not great world building in the first place.
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                        Maybe having a guy that's totally invulnerable to the most powerful bad guys is actually not great world building in the first place.
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                        He's not at all invulnerable, in the book they were about to throw down and the Witch King was pretty confident about his chances. Also Gandalf literally gets killed by the Balrog.
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                          Maybe having a guy that's totally invulnerable to the most powerful bad guys is actually not great world building in the first place.
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                          HERESY!!!! /s
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                            He's not at all invulnerable, in the book they were about to throw down and the Witch King was pretty confident about his chances. Also Gandalf literally gets killed by the Balrog.
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                            ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                            Yes pre-super Saiyan Gandalf is weaker.
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                              well mostly it's explained by the fact that it didn't happen. "In rode the Lord of the Nazgûl, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face. All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dínen. 'You cannot enter here,' said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. 'Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!' The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter. 'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade. Gandalf did not move." and then the Rohirrim arrive and the Rider leaves.
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                              Dude really just "Go home, boy" the ghost.
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                                Yes pre-super Saiyan Gandalf is weaker.
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                                The Witch King was still gonna go him.
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                                  He's not at all invulnerable, in the book they were about to throw down and the Witch King was pretty confident about his chances. Also Gandalf literally gets killed by the Balrog.
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                                  Both happened before Gandalf got cleaned up though.
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                                    He literally is not a man.
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                                    Meaning both he and the Balrog lose a lot of their power in physical form in the first place but yeah
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                                      Balrog who is also a Maia* Maiar is plural
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                                        The Witch-King can fight a wizard for the same reason elves can fight and kill the greatest dragons and balrogs themselves. Binding creatures of spirit into physical form both weakens them and makes them vulnerable to other creatures built of both natures. That the Witch King is the equal of a balrog/Maia is not a stretch... Gandalf bring afraid of him even if he is a threat is the stretch.
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                                          The Witch King was still gonna go him.
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                                          Especially with prep time.
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