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    Stardew Valley was totally, unquestionably copying harvest moon. And its fantastic.
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    mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    It's not just that, it *deliberately* copied Harvest Moon. Eric Barone (Concerned Ape) even said so
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      sunsofold@lemmings.world
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      IP laws are meant to protect creators, but are backdoored by corporate personhood. Remove corporate personhood and the world of IP law immediately becomes less toxic.
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        So Nemesis System is an enemy that you will find multiple times through the game and he will be different according to your choices? How didn't Nintendo sue WB saying they copied it from the first Pokemon game.
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        saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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        It would open up using Pokémon as an example of prior art in court.
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          In fact, I'd go so far as to *encourage* copying others. Not plagiarising outright, as in claiming it as your own, but taking a concept and doing it yourself. "Oh that game is just a copy of Animal Crossing." You think you can make a better Animal Crossing? Go for it. Let me decide who did it better and which one I wanna play.
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          cancermancer@sh.itjust.works
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          Yes someone did exactly this: it's called "Dinkum" and it's fantastic, much better than the Animal Crossing game that hit the Switch.
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            Warframe in the background...
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            cancermancer@sh.itjust.works
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            \*screen flickers\*
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              I'm guessing the video owner is YouTube, I'd be surprised if the channel can control that. How are you trying to watch the video?
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              You probably know more about YouTube channel controls than i do. Anyway, piefed, in a post. The video worked at first, then it didn't.
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                IP laws are meant to protect creators, but are backdoored by corporate personhood. Remove corporate personhood and the world of IP law immediately becomes less toxic.
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                rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                Stop making so much sense.
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                  So Nemesis System is an enemy that you will find multiple times through the game and he will be different according to your choices? How didn't Nintendo sue WB saying they copied it from the first Pokemon game.
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                  Because they probably use the word procedural somewhere. _Scripted_ repeat enemy encounters is decades older than Pokemon
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                    Something about this is absolutely hilarious to me. Sad though when thinking about it critically.
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                    orgundonor@lemmy.world
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                    I don't know, makes a lot of sense critically to me. If you think about the last few big games they were behind, Hogwarts Legacy stands out, Mortal Kombat I guess, throw in what ever the last Lego game was. But you also have Suicide Squad, Gotham Knights, Multiversus these massive games that just have an awful reputation. Arkham Knight is nearly a decade old, Middle Earth series is around that same time. Back for Blood is newish but that never exactly set the world on fire. My gut reaction was pretty shocked, cause I have amazing memories and fondness of some WB games, then I remember that was 10+ years ago with MK9, Batman Arkham Asylum and City, Mad Max, Bastion, Scribblenauts...
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                      You probably know more about YouTube channel controls than i do. Anyway, piefed, in a post. The video worked at first, then it didn't.
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                      Oh interesting, but in piefed, you are still just opening a youtube link correct? The website wouldn't be changing unless the link is being forwarded or something else like that.
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                        WB hasn't used the nemesis system since 2017, and likely won't use it again at this point. By the time the patent expires it might be a lost system.
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                        The “nemesis system” is just hundreds of voice lines and a dice roll to decide when they pop up. I liked the middle earth games but always thought it was funny how they pushed the nemesis system like some kind of groundbreaking thing.
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                          The “nemesis system” is just hundreds of voice lines and a dice roll to decide when they pop up. I liked the middle earth games but always thought it was funny how they pushed the nemesis system like some kind of groundbreaking thing.
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                          ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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                          It's more the hierarchy of having super bad that can get bonuses based on your actions.
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                            Oh interesting, but in piefed, you are still just opening a youtube link correct? The website wouldn't be changing unless the link is being forwarded or something else like that.
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                            In the post, the YouTube link is above and the video is below. Initially, the video was viewable directly, then on subsequent visits it changed.
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                              In the post, the YouTube link is above and the video is below. Initially, the video was viewable directly, then on subsequent visits it changed.
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                              Interesting. I guess that's a piefed feature? Is there a client that you are using or is this just using the web ui?
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                                Interesting. I guess that's a piefed feature? Is there a client that you are using or is this just using the web ui?
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                                Regular phone browser.
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                                  It would if I could get modded Skyrim to work. Months working on my mod list only for it CTD on start up.
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                                  mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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                                  That's why you enable mods in small batches. When you get an issue it's a lot easier to find the offender. Also, if you're getting a CTD on startup you're probably missing a dependency. Mod Organizer 2 is a lot better with warnings about that than Vortex
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                                    That's why you enable mods in small batches. When you get an issue it's a lot easier to find the offender. Also, if you're getting a CTD on startup you're probably missing a dependency. Mod Organizer 2 is a lot better with warnings about that than Vortex
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                                    I get warning messages about two mods in particular
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                                      Fuck software patents. Copyright made sense when it was a decade or two. Industrial patents seem basically functional. Trademark's mostly truth-in-advertising for consumer choice. But software patents aren't about *how* you do something - they're claiming the entire concept, in the broadest possible terms, and killing it. Straight-up murdering that potential. It is denied the necessary iterative competition that turns dogshit first implementations into must-have features. Nobody's gonna care in twenty years. Entire hardware form-factors have come and gone in a single decade. Can you imagine if swipe keyboards were *still* single-vendor, and still worked like in 2009? Or maybe Apple bought them, and endlessly bragged about how Android can't do [blank], because fifty thousand dollars changed hands in the 3G era. How many games would not exist, if Nintendo had decided they own sidescrollers? A whole genre, wiped out, because a piece of paper says those mechanics are theft.
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                                      This is why loading screens don't have mini games BTW. As if you needed another reason to hate software patents.
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                                        Abolish all patents and copyrights, everywhere, except for a creator’s ability to assert “I made this”. [Against Intellectual Monopoly](http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm)
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                                          I have advocated for the abolishment of IP many times in my life. Never, in my wildest dreams, would have thought that it would be abolished willingly through AI. All it took was to show that they could make more money by ignoring it. Like a light switch IP suddenly gets switched off. Now the corrupted federal government considers it a matter of national security and will protect it at all costs. Truly a bizarre world we live in.
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