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I love nintendo, but they are one of the worst companies to their consumers....
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100% agree. Also 99% emulator users pirate games or do you dispute this part too?They pirate THEIR OWN GAMES and emulate them using software other people made! No excuse!
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Ok, then don’t play them. Why are commenting on this again?you accused me of being "autistic" which... I'm not sure if that's meant to be an insult? and then immediately follow that with "grow up." fascinating. anyway, the hardware nor the software nintendo sells aren't unique in the slightest. and *most* of the nintendo branded software on the switch 2 won't be new nintendo IP. Mostly older ip.... that they'll *charge you for if you'd like to use the new fancy 120fps and graphics!* the games you already own. for switch. you get to *give them more money.* on top of the 70-80 you already payed for the game.
and the rest of the content on the switch 2 is stuff everyone with a next gen console has had for a while now. hell even lower end handheld PCs are already around and cheaper than what nintendo wants. and the games are cheaper because they go on *real sales*. nintendo doesn't really know how to do those. but I dearly hope you enjoy.
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It's probably almost nearly 100% of emulator users who pirate games. Even Nintendo pirated their own games before releasing them on the Wii's Virtual Console.Nintendo couldn’t pirate their own stuff because they own it. They downloaded ROMs because they can’t be arsed to dump them themselves, similar to 99% of population. Kind of hypocritical with all the DRM related laws that they support but at least they recognise they’re unenforceable.
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>They sell gameplay and not graphics and that’s timeless. No, they keep rehashing the same like 4 IPs over and over, feeding off the nostalgia kick people get out of their favorite childhood video game releasing on a modern consoleTell me you don’t play Nintendo games without playing Nintendo games.
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They pirate THEIR OWN GAMES and emulate them using software other people made! No excuse!How can Nintendo pirate a thing they own?
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you accused me of being "autistic" which... I'm not sure if that's meant to be an insult? and then immediately follow that with "grow up." fascinating. anyway, the hardware nor the software nintendo sells aren't unique in the slightest. and *most* of the nintendo branded software on the switch 2 won't be new nintendo IP. Mostly older ip.... that they'll *charge you for if you'd like to use the new fancy 120fps and graphics!* the games you already own. for switch. you get to *give them more money.* on top of the 70-80 you already payed for the game.
and the rest of the content on the switch 2 is stuff everyone with a next gen console has had for a while now. hell even lower end handheld PCs are already around and cheaper than what nintendo wants. and the games are cheaper because they go on *real sales*. nintendo doesn't really know how to do those. but I dearly hope you enjoy.
I accused you of autistic-like behaviour, there’s nothing fascinating about it because it’s so common amongst immature gamers. -
I'm fairly certain that Ryujinx is a hobby project as well, which would contradict your claim that developing emulators for later-gen systems requires funding. However, I may be mistaken. Regardless of if I am right about Ryujinx, your claim that I am "cheering for another company" just because I called a spade a spade with regards to Nintendo's legal trickery in the Yuzu case is still wrong. As I said, the Yuzu team was wrong to profit off of adding patches for leaked games. They deserved to get their Patreon shut down for that. However, the sentence forbade them fromever working on a Nintendo emulator again, which is excessive because *developing an emulator is not and should not be illegal*. For another example that might clarify my position: I believe that Palworld is in many ways a blatant rip-off of Pokémon IP that obviously marketed itself on its similarities with Nintendo's franchise. Nintebdo was quite right to sue them. However, the lawsuit evoked patents whose very existence is the epitome of bullshit, such as using a drawn outline to represent the position of a pkayer character or NPC who us totally or oartially obscured behind an opaque object. We live in a complex world. It is possible to be in the right and still be an unethical overreaching asshole about it.Ryujinx got caught in a crossfire. I’m pretty sure Nintendo wouldn’t dare to harass them, similar to Dolphin, if it wasn’t for all the publicity Yuzu was bringing to Switch piracy. Nintendo shouldn’t have done that but here we are and it’s Yuzu that started this by breaking unwritten rules and playing dumb. Yuzu was a commercial enterprise. The moment you start taking money for this kind of work it’s no longer a hobby project and should bear all of the legal consequences. Yuzu guys were smart, they played a scrappy underdog but if your whole business idea hinges on breaking multiple laws for the purpose of making money (and they made much more than covering current expenses) you’re asking for trouble. They also enjoy a bit of a revenge from the grave with all the people angry over their toys being taken away doing black PR for Nintendo. Everyone is free to do as they please but what I’m seeing is just a hissy fit so there isn’t that much nuance to this.
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Ryujinx got caught in a crossfire. I’m pretty sure Nintendo wouldn’t dare to harass them, similar to Dolphin, if it wasn’t for all the publicity Yuzu was bringing to Switch piracy. Nintendo shouldn’t have done that but here we are and it’s Yuzu that started this by breaking unwritten rules and playing dumb. Yuzu was a commercial enterprise. The moment you start taking money for this kind of work it’s no longer a hobby project and should bear all of the legal consequences. Yuzu guys were smart, they played a scrappy underdog but if your whole business idea hinges on breaking multiple laws for the purpose of making money (and they made much more than covering current expenses) you’re asking for trouble. They also enjoy a bit of a revenge from the grave with all the people angry over their toys being taken away doing black PR for Nintendo. Everyone is free to do as they please but what I’m seeing is just a hissy fit so there isn’t that much nuance to this.
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Nintendo couldn’t pirate their own stuff because they own it. They downloaded ROMs because they can’t be arsed to dump them themselves, similar to 99% of population. Kind of hypocritical with all the DRM related laws that they support but at least they recognise they’re unenforceable.Ok, then Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use.
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Ok, then Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use.Piracy of what?
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Piracy of what?Booty and gold, of course
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Booty and gold, of courseWhat did they pirate specifically and why nobody is suing them for it? Please go ahead.
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I love nintendo, but they are one of the worst companies to their consumers....
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How can Nintendo pirate a thing they own?Using someone else’s rip as their own software
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Using someone else’s rip as their own softwareSo they pirated the act of piracy? What’s the law against that?
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I accused you of autistic-like behaviour, there’s nothing fascinating about it because it’s so common amongst immature gamers.
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What did they pirate specifically and why nobody is suing them for it? Please go ahead.What I said in my last comment was >Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use. I'm not sure why this didn't satisfy your pedantry before, but maybe you didn't read it when you replied to it last time.
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What I said in my last comment was >Nintendo benefitted financially from piracy and made no efforts to hide the fact that they obtained games through the exact same methods that pirates use. I'm not sure why this didn't satisfy your pedantry before, but maybe you didn't read it when you replied to it last time.Law is a pedantic thing.
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Law is a pedantic thing.Ok, I see now. I was saying that they benefitted from other people pirating their games. You thought I meant that they benefitted from pirating their own games. I can see how what I wrote could be interpreted that way. But no, I meant that they benefitted from their games having been pirated in the past by pirates.
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Ok, I see now. I was saying that they benefitted from other people pirating their games. You thought I meant that they benefitted from pirating their own games. I can see how what I wrote could be interpreted that way. But no, I meant that they benefitted from their games having been pirated in the past by pirates.I think you misunderstand the root of the argument. You’re referencing Nintendo copying someone’s rip and that seems illogical - DRM circumvention is illegal under DMCA, right? Nintendo is a license owner for those things however so they can’t really circumvent anything and therefore there is no law against that. Nintendo can download Mario roms off the internet legally because they are the publisher and won’t sue themselves obviously.