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Skill checks
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I think most people would say not letting you attempt to do something because they think your character can't possibly have enough of a bonus to do it is railroading. Again, like I said, I don't have foresight to know what the bonus might be. What if the bard decides to inspire them? What if the cleric uses guidance before? What if they have some item that gives them a bonus and they haven't written that in and just add it in the fly?
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Sometimes, it's about sending a message.
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Because I don't know what their max roll might be and it achieves them something, they gain knowledge that something is impossible for them.
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On page 242 of the Dungeon Master Guide 2014, it describes crit successes and fails as an optional rule. As optional as multiclassing and feats.
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I agree completely! ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler I assume you're just adding context because I don't believe dialogue has clashing ideas any longer :::I'm just disagreeing that allowing someone to roll when a 20 might not be enough is railroading.
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> Do you want me to ***check all eight of their sheets*** and all their abilities that could possibly modify their scores or just ask them to make a Blah (Foo) check check and see what the result is? It's gonna be way faster for everyone to just ask them to roll. I never said I didn't have the sheets.Yeah; you just assumed I meant to memorize it, despite my initial comment straight up asking "don't you have your PC's sheets?"
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Yeah; you just assumed I meant to memorize it, despite my initial comment straight up asking "don't you have your PC's sheets?"️>>> why did you let them roll in the first place? >> >> Because I don't have everyone's modifier for every skill, ability, saving throw, and attack ***memorized*** off the top of my head > > ***Why the hell not?*** You're the DM. Why do you not have copies of your player's character sheets?
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I'm just disagreeing that allowing someone to roll when a 20 might not be enough is railroading.
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Personally, I find "5% of the time the outcome is astoundingly good, and 5% of the time it's shockingly bad" kind of unsatisfying. Jarring, even. Picture playing darts and every 20 throws, missed the dart board completely, no matter how good you are at darts. I haven't played pf2e but I think degree of success is a much more reasonable system. I also prefer games that aren't flat probability. When you only roll one die, every outcome (on the die) is equally likely. But I think a lot of people playing DND don't really care about rules, consistency, verisimilitude, or much anything beyond "lololol and then Kevin crit his stealth check so we said the goblin king didn't see him at all as he stole the throne the goblin was sitting on!!!". Which is fine, I guess.
