I've been adding most of the videos that I watch to the FediverseTV playlist, I think a lot about how Google has a rich history of the videos that I watch Yet, often people I know have never heard of any of it.
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Imagine a shared playlist that pulled everything from the FediverseTV playlist on youTube, but you could also add peertube, nebula, and other videos to this super list.
And maybe it had a way to comment and discuss the videos.
This sounds deceptively simple. Online applications tend to fail to catch on because it's too hard to log in, you need to make a new account, or there isn't an easy way to adapt use into the ways people already use tech.
This wouldn't be a small project at all.
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@futurebird pinchflat is neat
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird The Indie Beat Television ( @TIBtv) which launched December 28th, uses open source software, was created by musicians, and features only videos by independant artists, mostly from the fediverse. The launch was a big success, people are sending in videos daily, and the quality is incredible.
The Indie Beat Television
A consent driven live stream of indie music videos and animation from artists across the Fediverse. See Now Playing info at https://mastodon.social/@tibtvnowplayingbot - Fediwall at https://shorturl.at/CrWD3 - Submit your videos at https://theindiebeat.fm/the-indie-beat-tv/
The Indie Beat Television (tv.theindiebeat.fm)
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My YouTube addiction is bad.
I managed to quit smoking after 30 trying to, so eventually I might get there, too.
I find posting what I watch on the shared list, forces me to think a little bit more about what I watch.
If I watch something I don’t want to put on the list I think: WHY am I watching something that’s so low quality that I wouldn’t want the people I know to watch it as well?
Looking at all of the videos I’ve watched since this began makes me think about how I’m using my time. It’s a bit of accountability some of us might do together.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
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I find posting what I watch on the shared list, forces me to think a little bit more about what I watch.
If I watch something I don’t want to put on the list I think: WHY am I watching something that’s so low quality that I wouldn’t want the people I know to watch it as well?
Looking at all of the videos I’ve watched since this began makes me think about how I’m using my time. It’s a bit of accountability some of us might do together.
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@futurebird i know how to pull youtube playlists into google sheets using the youtube API.
a google form could accept urls from other services. a gscript could generate an html file with all the videos paginated and embedded, and a bit of playlist magic.
a webintent link next to each video can autogenerate a fediverse hashtag to post to. maybe something like #yt_[videoid]
a small script can pull and embed the rss feed for each hashtag
this is all possible but much harder if we avoid google services; but we’re already using youtube.
There should also be a hashtag on such posts so they can all be filtered out for politeness or found when wanted eg #fediTVTalk #fediTVTalk_peerTube_0001 ?
ooh this is fun to think about—
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird I use freetube, which lets you easily subscribe to and watch youtube without a google account, no ads and you can turn off all suggested videos. So I can keep track of stuff I want to follow there, but don’t get sucked into watching other stuff by accident. (You can also subscribe to youtube channels via RSS for this, but then you still have to watch on the site and see “suggestions”)
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@futurebird Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
I also hope that the fediTV list could help people find what is worth supporting directly— based on what people are really watching.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird
All of the above for me. Physical media for the comfort shows I watch when I'm especially unwell, YouTube for mostly music and calming background things like train journeys or walking videos, and various free and paid streaming options for tv shows and movies. I didn't vote because I use all of them a LOT, since I have to spend so much time in bed. -
I find posting what I watch on the shared list, forces me to think a little bit more about what I watch.
If I watch something I don’t want to put on the list I think: WHY am I watching something that’s so low quality that I wouldn’t want the people I know to watch it as well?
Looking at all of the videos I’ve watched since this began makes me think about how I’m using my time. It’s a bit of accountability some of us might do together.
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I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird I'm sorry to say, YT. I think I do a fair bit on Nebula, and the big streamers. But if I'm being honest, youtube prob inches up. I am not proud.
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@futurebird I use freetube, which lets you easily subscribe to and watch youtube without a google account, no ads and you can turn off all suggested videos. So I can keep track of stuff I want to follow there, but don’t get sucked into watching other stuff by accident. (You can also subscribe to youtube channels via RSS for this, but then you still have to watch on the site and see “suggestions”)
@bloodripelives @futurebird I have a few RSSes for youtube. And an extention to remove recommended vids (such a breath of air). But I still go to the home page for rec's.
I also have YT on roku, but not loged in. And worked the recommendation engin to most of what I watch.
Tho someone mentioned freetube, while i want to look into.
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@futurebird Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
@dobetterinstitute @futurebird I totally agree. But I don't like nebula. And having a bunch of different subscriptions to substack, pagreon, kofi etc I also don't like.
So I have started working on @fedipay fedipay.net
An open source, decentralised creator reward system so I can pay creators my way, with simple transactions ixeally eventually too -
@dobetterinstitute @futurebird I totally agree. But I don't like nebula. And having a bunch of different subscriptions to substack, pagreon, kofi etc I also don't like.
So I have started working on @fedipay fedipay.net
An open source, decentralised creator reward system so I can pay creators my way, with simple transactions ixeally eventually too@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay mailing cash! Crazy.
In Australia and Europe banking is easy. But the idea is a creator/contributor creates an account on a fedipay server.
They put their chosen way to receive payment there.
Eventually the servers will communicate with each other to settle up, and any remaining funds are transferred back out to their final place.
For now I am just building the actual server and extension for tracking (that you own and control) -
@futurebird @dobetterinstitute @fedipay mailing cash! Crazy.
In Australia and Europe banking is easy. But the idea is a creator/contributor creates an account on a fedipay server.
They put their chosen way to receive payment there.
Eventually the servers will communicate with each other to settle up, and any remaining funds are transferred back out to their final place.
For now I am just building the actual server and extension for tracking (that you own and control)@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@futurebird @craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Mailing cash is less feasible if you want to support someone in a country that doesn't use the same currency as the country you live in.
I still have a 5 USD bill someone sent me a decade ago... -
@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
@futurebird @craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Loose cash can be extracted from envelopes without opening them by rolling bills w/a pair of small knitting needles and sliding them out. Wrapping cash in a piece of paper … -
I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
@futurebird Lately mostly YouTube. Before that, mostly DVDs.
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@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
@craiglambie42 @futurebird @fedipay @dobetterinstitute We’ve had cash go missing in the mail a number of times this year. It used to work pretty reliably for grandkids birthdays.
