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There’s another shooting in Minneapolis this morning involving ICE.

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    According to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison:

    ICE is blocking MN investigators from the crime scene. The MN National Guard is on the way to force ICE to let investigators in.

    (NB: Still trying to find a confirmed source for this; I have no further info yet)

    UPDATE: Source for this is somebody at the scene who heard Ellison say it in conversation. Source is likely reliable person, but may have incomplete info. This is a big game of telephone right now, so don’t treat this as authoritative in any way.

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    @inthehands Someone in one of my groups reported seeing 7-8 national guard vehicles on 62.

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      I want to emphasize: the graphic details of what ICE did this morning are •extremely• disturbing. It is important to know what is happening, but that does not necessarily mean having every traumatic detail burned into your brain. Please take care of yourself, and be mindful of how you absorb details as they emerge.

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      @inthehands it never gets easier hearing the Crack of that first shot going off.

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        I want to emphasize: the graphic details of what ICE did this morning are •extremely• disturbing. It is important to know what is happening, but that does not necessarily mean having every traumatic detail burned into your brain. Please take care of yourself, and be mindful of how you absorb details as they emerge.

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        @inthehands@hachyderm.io Agree - please use CWs for the gory details or pictures/videos so everyone can decide for themself

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        • KnowAttitudeK KnowAttitude

          @inthehands
          Democratic Senators be aware:
          If you do not vote NO on resolutions that fund ICE, you have NO political future.

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          @knowattitude @inthehands they not only have no political future, they have no future PERIOD.
          That is sufficient evidence to convict of providing direct aid and committing crimes against humanity.

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            @inthehands
            Democratic Senators be aware:
            If you do not vote NO on resolutions that fund ICE, you have NO political future.

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            @knowattitude @inthehands It's too late. They have overthrown you. Who knows where this is going but elections are done in the US

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            • ? Guest

              According to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison:

              ICE is blocking MN investigators from the crime scene. The MN National Guard is on the way to force ICE to let investigators in.

              (NB: Still trying to find a confirmed source for this; I have no further info yet)

              UPDATE: Source for this is somebody at the scene who heard Ellison say it in conversation. Source is likely reliable person, but may have incomplete info. This is a big game of telephone right now, so don’t treat this as authoritative in any way.

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              @inthehands So by tonight there could be civil war. 😬😔

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              • ? Guest

                According to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison:

                ICE is blocking MN investigators from the crime scene. The MN National Guard is on the way to force ICE to let investigators in.

                (NB: Still trying to find a confirmed source for this; I have no further info yet)

                UPDATE: Source for this is somebody at the scene who heard Ellison say it in conversation. Source is likely reliable person, but may have incomplete info. This is a big game of telephone right now, so don’t treat this as authoritative in any way.

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                @inthehands From the press conference a bit ago on cspan, General Mankey made it sound like the national guard were being called in to assist the Hennepin County Sheriff in, among other things, protecting the Whipple building, and are mobilizing additional national guard at this time.

                They also confirm feds abandoned the scene to local law enforcement who in turn abandoned it to protestors.

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                • ? Guest

                  According to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison:

                  ICE is blocking MN investigators from the crime scene. The MN National Guard is on the way to force ICE to let investigators in.

                  (NB: Still trying to find a confirmed source for this; I have no further info yet)

                  UPDATE: Source for this is somebody at the scene who heard Ellison say it in conversation. Source is likely reliable person, but may have incomplete info. This is a big game of telephone right now, so don’t treat this as authoritative in any way.

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                  @inthehands https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minnesota-4d1499fc5962ab880f3816259e04bdbf

                  national guard is now activated per AP

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                    @inthehands Huh. Odds of insurrection act just skyrocketed.

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                    @SharpCheddarGoblin @inthehands

                    Trump wants an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and thereby be able to cancel the midterms. Don't take the bait.

                    "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight." -- Sun Tzu

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                    • ? Guest

                      Trump admin now claiming ICE was scared and threatened and murdered this man in self-defense.

                      Please keep in mind the post below.

                      Please keep in mind that they lied their asses off •relentlessly• about murdering Renee Good.

                      Please don’t believe a word that comes out of these people’s mouths, and push back on every news outlet that treat their statement with even a drop of credulousness.

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                      Attached: 1 image This is not an isolated incident. Cops lie about what happened all the time. It’s worth reading again (or at all if you never have before, but make sure you’re sitting down) how the Minneapolis police first described the murder of George Floyd, before they knew there was video: 3/

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                      @inthehands “We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”
                      ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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                        @inthehands

                        LMAO. "Being scared" is part of law enforcement's job. That's why training is so important: how to properly handle a weapon, how to handle an adrenaline rush with a loaded weapon in your hand, how to manage a crowd and de-escalate violence, etc.

                        DHS and ICE, which means Trump and Miller don't give a shit. They intentionally hire unvetted incompetents with virtually no training, but with full combat armor and weapons, at a civilian population and tell them to enforce obedience.

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                        @huntingdon @inthehands Bovino claimed that the person who killed Alex had 8 years experience, so lack of training is not really the issue here

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                          @huntingdon @inthehands Bovino claimed that the person who killed Alex had 8 years experience, so lack of training is not really the issue here

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                          @wizardglaive @inthehands

                          Possibly with regard to one shooting. But the agency culture that enabled it, from Trump-Miller to Bovino and on down?

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                            @wizardglaive @inthehands

                            Possibly with regard to one shooting. But the agency culture that enabled it, from Trump-Miller to Bovino and on down?

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                            @huntingdon @inthehands I'm referring both to this shooting and Renee Good's shooting-- her killer had 10 years of experience. The "they need more training" narrative is entirely bullshit

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                              @huntingdon @inthehands I'm referring both to this shooting and Renee Good's shooting-- her killer had 10 years of experience. The "they need more training" narrative is entirely bullshit

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                              @wizardglaive @inthehands

                              I'm referring to the underlying culture that lets and encourages trained agents to shoot to kill in a civil policing context, with the expectation that there will be no consequences, not even an investigation.

                              Imagine how that affects everyone, including new ICE agents, who have little training or context, and existing agents, who were hired because they were prone to be racist and violent skinheads.

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                                @wizardglaive @inthehands

                                I'm referring to the underlying culture that lets and encourages trained agents to shoot to kill in a civil policing context, with the expectation that there will be no consequences, not even an investigation.

                                Imagine how that affects everyone, including new ICE agents, who have little training or context, and existing agents, who were hired because they were prone to be racist and violent skinheads.

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                                @huntingdon sure but literally all I'm talking about are the two people who actually committed murders in my city. I have no interest in a deeper discussion at this time

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                                  ‼️ Twin Cities residents‼️

                                  Citywide vigil, on every block

                                  7:00pm tonight

                                  There is no central gathering location, to prevent further ICE / DHS targeting. Vigil location is wherever you are.

                                  Please contact your nearby neighbors now and spread the word. We want the whole city showing up. This has to end.

                                  #MInneapolis #msp #MinneapolisProtests

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                                  @inthehands

                                  What every US citizen can simply do NOW

                                  we #US citizens need to immediately demand
                                  our #Congress impeach and convict Trump asap,
                                  or be #primaried by those who will
                                  write/phone/email/scream outside their offices

                                  find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
                                  https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

                                  contact your congressional representatives asap (before
                                  the primaries) to demand the return of our country, that
                                  they immediately impeach Trump! and Spread the word!

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                                    @knowattitude @inthehands It's too late. They have overthrown you. Who knows where this is going but elections are done in the US

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                                    @humanhorseshoes @knowattitude @inthehands

                                    “There remains a vast gulf between Trump’s authoritarian aspirations on the one hand and the realities of a complex modern state and society on the other. Obscuring that distinction is an act of defeatism that only serves the regime.”

                                    Thomas Zimmer (@tzimmer_history@mastodon.social)

                                    I am taking down the paywall for this one, as I believe it remains relevant as a reflection on the limits of the authoritarian assault – and the need to push back against the idea that America is inevitably and irresistibly marching towards a Trump dictatorship. This week’s piece: https://steady.page/en/democracyamericana/posts/a565b0ad-62e5-4f07-9e9b-2522407dae4b

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                                      @humanhorseshoes @knowattitude @inthehands

                                      “There remains a vast gulf between Trump’s authoritarian aspirations on the one hand and the realities of a complex modern state and society on the other. Obscuring that distinction is an act of defeatism that only serves the regime.”

                                      Thomas Zimmer (@tzimmer_history@mastodon.social)

                                      I am taking down the paywall for this one, as I believe it remains relevant as a reflection on the limits of the authoritarian assault – and the need to push back against the idea that America is inevitably and irresistibly marching towards a Trump dictatorship. This week’s piece: https://steady.page/en/democracyamericana/posts/a565b0ad-62e5-4f07-9e9b-2522407dae4b

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                                      @Red_Shirt_no2 @humanhorseshoes @knowattitude @tzimmer_history

                                      That. In the descent into authoritarianism, we are still very much in the “consolidating power” phase — and that phase can still fail. In fact, it looks a lot less successful now than it did 6 months ago.

                                      Also, this:

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                                      Attached: 2 images @susankayequinn@wandering.shop Reminds me of this passage from Rebecca Solnit on doomerism: ❝I don’t know why so many people seem to think it’s their job to spread discouragement, but it seems to be a muddle about the relationship between facts and feelings. I keep saying I respect despair as an emotion, but not as an analysis.…Feelings deserve full respect as feelings, but all they inform you about is you.❞ Longer excerpt in the screenshots; full article here: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/26/we-cant-afford-to-be-climate-doomers

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                                        (That message says “Twin Cities,” but solidarity from afar is welcome, always)

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                                        @inthehands
                                        Is there a donation account so that those who can afford it can at least support you financially?

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                                          Saw two different groups of protestors out in the cold on the way back from buying toilet paper

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                                          Oh. 💔 My wife and her dad both knew Alex Pretti from the VA Hospital where he was a nurse. “Gentle and such a good listener.”

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