Apartment Design Chronicles (Continued)

I'm working on improving our apartment. We've lived here for 18 years and are not going anywhere probably for 18 more. So, thinking deeply about making it a better space is worth it.

On the subject of kitchens I have a burning question: Why are stoves so big? Honestly, why is everything so big? The oven, the stove the fridge. They are all massive. But with the fridge there are small options and because of it I use less energy and have more storage.

@futurebird

I've got a little stove. Two burners and no oven at all.

Didja ever see the amusement in an oven? A box of hot right next to your box of cold that keeps your food fresh.

So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.

I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)

So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?

I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!

So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.

I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)

So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?

I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!

So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.

I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)

So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?

I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!

@futurebird you got to it before I said it to you, smaller stoves are either from galleys (boat kitchens) or camping/motorhome appliances.

@futurebird It's either a couple burners or a new device for DJ’ing hot beats.
Would you prefer gas, electric (resistance), or inductance?

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Better yet? Give me a two burner stove and half-sized dishwasher combo unit.

People would love this in any place where kitchens are small like large cities.

It feel like nothing was made to fit.

So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.

I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)

So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?

I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!

@futurebird

we've been using a pair of individual plugin induction hobs for 4 years now

they have been great.
no complaints at all.
keep a third one in the cupboard for the rare occasions we need three

Tefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black

Tefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black TEFAL : Enjoy fast and simple cooking everyday! The Everyday induction hob means fast and simple cooking everyday with its 9 power levels and 6 cooking functions: manual, hot milk, soup, stew, stir fry and fry. 'Everyday' is suitable for pans with a diameter from 12 to 26 cm.

Tefal United Kingdom & Ireland (www.tefal.co.uk)

@jt_rebelo

I'm kind of worried they won't be powerful enough? While I do need only two burners I love the functionality of my gas stove, but not the particulate matter it puts in the air. But electric stoves can now compete with gas, IF you get the right one.

Some of the smaller range units... they aren't for people who really cook on a stove all the time and who are serious about it.

Industry seems to think that if you are "serious" you want four burners and a big oven.

@futurebird @jt_rebelo if you're ok with induction Ikea has one that you can hang aside when not in use.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-cooktop-1-zone-black-30546508/

@alper @jt_rebelo

My soul tells me there is no way that can be used for real cooking.

Do I have gas burner derangement syndrome?

@futurebird @jt_rebelo I know. I have it too and proven right during fire season when pg&e shut off the grid for a few days. California is pushing us out of gas burners without a solution. Btw we have solar but we can't use it if the grid is down. We can only sell back to the grid so when they shut down we can't even use the electric we produce. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so I'm not giving up on the burner but electric is definitely better for the air quality in the house so this kind of makes sense.

@alper @jt_rebelo

My soul tells me there is no way that can be used for real cooking.

Do I have gas burner derangement syndrome?

@futurebird @jt_rebelo
Found this NG/LPG one.
https://a.co/d/dv2nhxp

@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo I used a plug in induction hot plate (1800 watts) as our primary stove every day for a year. it was great and I didn’t miss the gas stove other than sometimes I wanted more than one burner.

my favourite thing about it was you could set a timer the way you can with a toaster oven, like “boil this water for 10 minutes and then turn off”

@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo (it did also have the very annoying buttons that didn’t work if they got wet, like someone else mentioned, it was this one https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01FLR0ET8/)

@b0rk @futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo Yes, this. My next induction hob will have physical knobs. I have a Neff one with the magnetic dial thing but even then it's a little too magic.

So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.

I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)

So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?

I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!