Apartment Design Chronicles (Continued)
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@futurebird It's either a couple burners or a new device for DJ’ing hot beats.
Would you prefer gas, electric (resistance), or inductance?
High end induction for people who like gas but want to get rid of it?
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Better yet? Give me a two burner stove and half-sized dishwasher combo unit.
People would love this in any place where kitchens are small like large cities.
It feel like nothing was made to fit.
I feel like Jack (of the beanstalk) and shopping is like going to a mall in the land of the giants.
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So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.
I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)
So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?
I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!
we've been using a pair of individual plugin induction hobs for 4 years now
they have been great.
no complaints at all.
keep a third one in the cupboard for the rare occasions we need threeTefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black
Tefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black TEFAL : Enjoy fast and simple cooking everyday! The Everyday induction hob means fast and simple cooking everyday with its 9 power levels and 6 cooking functions: manual, hot milk, soup, stew, stir fry and fry. 'Everyday' is suitable for pans with a diameter from 12 to 26 cm.
Tefal United Kingdom & Ireland (www.tefal.co.uk)
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we've been using a pair of individual plugin induction hobs for 4 years now
they have been great.
no complaints at all.
keep a third one in the cupboard for the rare occasions we need threeTefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black
Tefal Everyday Induction Hob IH201840 - 2100W / Black TEFAL : Enjoy fast and simple cooking everyday! The Everyday induction hob means fast and simple cooking everyday with its 9 power levels and 6 cooking functions: manual, hot milk, soup, stew, stir fry and fry. 'Everyday' is suitable for pans with a diameter from 12 to 26 cm.
Tefal United Kingdom & Ireland (www.tefal.co.uk)
OK I've used something like that 20 years ago and it was NOT a good experience. It took forever to boil water. It couldn't really brown the hash browns. Couldn't make the MF "sizzle"
Have they really gotten better? That would be great news.
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I'm kind of worried they won't be powerful enough? While I do need only two burners I love the functionality of my gas stove, but not the particulate matter it puts in the air. But electric stoves can now compete with gas, IF you get the right one.
Some of the smaller range units... they aren't for people who really cook on a stove all the time and who are serious about it.
Industry seems to think that if you are "serious" you want four burners and a big oven.
@futurebird @jt_rebelo if you're ok with induction Ikea has one that you can hang aside when not in use.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-cooktop-1-zone-black-30546508/ -
@futurebird @jt_rebelo if you're ok with induction Ikea has one that you can hang aside when not in use.
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tillreda-portable-induction-cooktop-1-zone-black-30546508/My soul tells me there is no way that can be used for real cooking.
Do I have gas burner derangement syndrome?
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My soul tells me there is no way that can be used for real cooking.
Do I have gas burner derangement syndrome?
@futurebird @jt_rebelo I know. I have it too and proven right during fire season when pg&e shut off the grid for a few days. California is pushing us out of gas burners without a solution. Btw we have solar but we can't use it if the grid is down. We can only sell back to the grid so when they shut down we can't even use the electric we produce. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so I'm not giving up on the burner but electric is definitely better for the air quality in the house so this kind of makes sense.
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@futurebird @jt_rebelo I know. I have it too and proven right during fire season when pg&e shut off the grid for a few days. California is pushing us out of gas burners without a solution. Btw we have solar but we can't use it if the grid is down. We can only sell back to the grid so when they shut down we can't even use the electric we produce. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so I'm not giving up on the burner but electric is definitely better for the air quality in the house so this kind of makes sense.
@futurebird @jt_rebelo
Found this NG/LPG one.
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My soul tells me there is no way that can be used for real cooking.
Do I have gas burner derangement syndrome?
@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo I used a plug in induction hot plate (1800 watts) as our primary stove every day for a year. it was great and I didn’t miss the gas stove other than sometimes I wanted more than one burner.
my favourite thing about it was you could set a timer the way you can with a toaster oven, like “boil this water for 10 minutes and then turn off”
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@futurebird @jt_rebelo
Found this NG/LPG one.
https://a.co/d/dv2nhxp@alper @futurebird around here (Portugal, sunny southwestern Europe) we have the same problem, solar has been installed everywhere, but without inverters and home batteries solar panels can only feed the grid (if the grid is on, something many found out during April's blackout). I have used hot plates with my solar batteries (around 3 kWh total, enough for 3 people for about 24h in an emergency, with 440W of solar panels to charge them, or multiple days with only one person - like I do around the LeMans 24H race every year. The batteries take around 8h to charge from 0 to 100% from the panels, if there is AC power, even for a short period of time, they can charge at 1300 to 1800W at the same time, so a boost is able to shorten recharge times).
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@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo I used a plug in induction hot plate (1800 watts) as our primary stove every day for a year. it was great and I didn’t miss the gas stove other than sometimes I wanted more than one burner.
my favourite thing about it was you could set a timer the way you can with a toaster oven, like “boil this water for 10 minutes and then turn off”
@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo (it did also have the very annoying buttons that didn’t work if they got wet, like someone else mentioned, it was this one https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01FLR0ET8/)
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@futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo (it did also have the very annoying buttons that didn’t work if they got wet, like someone else mentioned, it was this one https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01FLR0ET8/)
@b0rk @futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo Yes, this. My next induction hob will have physical knobs. I have a Neff one with the magnetic dial thing but even then it's a little too magic.
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@b0rk @futurebird @alper @jt_rebelo Yes, this. My next induction hob will have physical knobs. I have a Neff one with the magnetic dial thing but even then it's a little too magic.
Does a stove really need a microprocessor? I love them but. Is it really something that is needed for the stove?
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So I'm thinking about how much I love my small fridge and start to eye the stove.
I do not need four burners. Two is enough. I do not need the oven. Period. I don't use it. I have a very nice, large toaster oven. It's more precise, uses less energy. (and you don't need to bend over)
So, why can't I just have a two burner range with half the width and GAIN counter-space and more storage again?
I've searched far and wide. I would need to buy a "nautical stove" made for a boat!
@futurebird but there are plenty of two-burner stoves sold? Both free standing, and integrated?
Update: huh, it's interesting, while German Ikea has three models of two-burner integrable induction stoves (https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/lagan-induktionskochfeld-plug-in-2-zonen-schwarz-70506096/ and https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/tillreda-induktionskochfeld-tragbar-2-zonen-weiss-70593121/ and https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/vaelbildad-induktionskochfeld-ikea-300-schwarz-20467592/) plus three models of single-burner, Ikea in USA has zero two-burner and two single-burner.
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I feel like Jack (of the beanstalk) and shopping is like going to a mall in the land of the giants.
My big take always from the excellent comments on this thread are:
* Do not get a stove with touch controls. DO NOT.
* Maybe give induction cooking a try? I guess I could try it and see if we could just get rid of the whole stove?We have a "landlord special" stove and it's huge and very ugly. Since I don't need to worry about "resale" or moving why should we keep it?
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@futurebird but there are plenty of two-burner stoves sold? Both free standing, and integrated?
Update: huh, it's interesting, while German Ikea has three models of two-burner integrable induction stoves (https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/lagan-induktionskochfeld-plug-in-2-zonen-schwarz-70506096/ and https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/tillreda-induktionskochfeld-tragbar-2-zonen-weiss-70593121/ and https://www.ikea.com/de/de/p/vaelbildad-induktionskochfeld-ikea-300-schwarz-20467592/) plus three models of single-burner, Ikea in USA has zero two-burner and two single-burner.
I have been trying I promise. I feel like I'm swimming upstream.
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Apartment Design Chronicles (Continued)
I'm working on improving our apartment. We've lived here for 18 years and are not going anywhere probably for 18 more. So, thinking deeply about making it a better space is worth it.
On the subject of kitchens I have a burning question: Why are stoves so big? Honestly, why is everything so big? The oven, the stove the fridge. They are all massive. But with the fridge there are small options and because of it I use less energy and have more storage.
@futurebird Hunh, I was just clicking around and came across this all-in-one thing. https://a.co/d/ie7z47V
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My big take always from the excellent comments on this thread are:
* Do not get a stove with touch controls. DO NOT.
* Maybe give induction cooking a try? I guess I could try it and see if we could just get rid of the whole stove?We have a "landlord special" stove and it's huge and very ugly. Since I don't need to worry about "resale" or moving why should we keep it?
@futurebird what happens to the "landlord special" stove when you replace it?
Do you need to convince the landlord to come get it and move it out of your place?
(I assume you can't just resell it or throw it away as if you own it?)
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I have been trying I promise. I feel like I'm swimming upstream.
@futurebird okay I don't know what are the common appliances brands or places to shop at are in US, but I also tried entering "induction two" into walmart search bar and got plenty of results too, even e.g. this one (with knobs!): https://www.walmart.com/ip/KFFKFF-Induction-Stove-1800W-Electric-Tabletop-Heater-Dual-Knob-Controlled-Burner-Integrated-Induction-Stove-12-Heat-Levels-Glass-Top-Automatic-Power/14836714105?classType=REGULAR&from=/search
I just wonder what am I missing. -
My big take always from the excellent comments on this thread are:
* Do not get a stove with touch controls. DO NOT.
* Maybe give induction cooking a try? I guess I could try it and see if we could just get rid of the whole stove?We have a "landlord special" stove and it's huge and very ugly. Since I don't need to worry about "resale" or moving why should we keep it?
