@fivetonsflax

I have learned so much about induction stoves today im gonna cry...

@futurebird @JessTheUnstill in the same room is not the same as in the same appliance! its weird why is it weird
this feels like building an aviary paludarium for your birds and lizards and fish. sure you can, i guess, but... euhh...

@SarraceniaWilds @JessTheUnstill

I don't think I've done a good enough job conveying the smallness of the kitchen this would be for.

I'd totally get this... but it means replacing my sink and I like my sink. It's 80 years old and perfect.

It wouldn't have to replace it. I know people with 2 sinks - it can be convenient to have a cooking sink and a cleaning sink.
@futurebird @SarraceniaWilds

@JessTheUnstill @SarraceniaWilds

OMG you have a point!

And a cutting board cover can go on one... hmmm

@JessTheUnstill @SarraceniaWilds

Oh. I just realized it's a fridge not a dishwasher.

And I think you are right about those burners being... a little wimpy.

Hmmm

I will figure this out someday...

@futurebird @jaystephens This was honestly the thought I was scrolling down this long thread to see: "But in NYC?" Because much of flyover country we're (financially) better off doing a big monthly grocery run, with maybe a second monthly trip to top off ultra-perishables like milk. There are smaller local markets, but they are usually unaffordable (coastal prices for flyover incomes) and many still require a car trip. It's night and day from big city living (having lived in Shanghai a while.)

As someone else upthread also said, I'm the cook they design those kitchens for - I have a full (imo ultra-oversize) fridge, but it's always PACKED: I have a chest freezer, likewise PACKED. I do use a couple, sometimes three, burners at a time, occasionally while the oven's running too (at least in winter - in summer, everything goes in the instant pot because it's insulated.) Then most of the giant batch cook goes in the fridge and freezer, to make the most of occasional purchases of seasonal or perishable ingredients, minimize cooking fuel (even if it's all solar electricity), cut total kitchen time, etc.

But as with anything else a lot of American homeownership norms are about cosplaying the wealthy from the middle of the last millennium, in miniature, so of course every home needs a kitchen equipped to feed the football team, even when few enough of us have cooked like that since the 1960s ushered in TV dinners and cooking with canned soups as primary ingredients.

@ianmnoone @futurebird Trvth. I have a 1-burner countertop induction thing that heats cast iron to smoking-hot within a minute. I use it outside in lieu of a gas grill.

You could probably find a 2-burner unit that is more built-in.

@david @ianmnoone

OK... but and I feel like I'm missing something big here. What do I build it into? When I remove the stove there will be a gap. So I'd need to put a table there.

Extending the counters isn't an option, they are 80 years old and impossible to match. So, I need to put the stove in or on... something. I was hoping to find a free standing unit or something.

@cwicseolfor

I grew up in an industrial city in northern England in the 1950s.

We had small stores each on the ground floor of row housing: grocer, greengrocer, butcher, confectioner's, bakery, ironmonger and the biggest was two houses knocked together, the co-op. All within two blocks walk.

It was only after we got a small fridge that a supermarket opened.

Big supermarkets, shopping centres, didn't arrive until we and our neighbours got cars.

The co-evolution of social systems: storage and transportation and retail distribution.

I can't say that people are noticeably happier now.

@futurebird @jaystephens @futurebird