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If anyone tells you that they can explain all of the craziness of the world in a single theory be skeptical.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    @michael_w_busch

    Also unaware of how much the world would enjoy them being in there.

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    @futurebird @michael_w_busch

    I really Douglas Rushkoff had interviewed the guy with embassy security experience more.

    In the article he mentions that after talking to the billionaires panicking about how to maintain control over their guards, a guy with real world security experience approached him and shared his plans for responding to "the event".

    "He felt certain that the “event” – a grey swan, or predictable catastrophe triggered by our enemies, Mother Nature, or just by accident –was inevitable. He had done a Swot analysis – strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats – and concluded that preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one. “By coincidence,” he explained, “I am setting up a series of safe haven farms in the NYC area. These are designed to best handle an ‘event’ and also benefit society as semi-organic farms. Both within three hours’ drive from the city – close enough to get there when it happens.”"

    I feel like "preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one" is an excellent insight.

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      @futurebird @michael_w_busch

      I really Douglas Rushkoff had interviewed the guy with embassy security experience more.

      In the article he mentions that after talking to the billionaires panicking about how to maintain control over their guards, a guy with real world security experience approached him and shared his plans for responding to "the event".

      "He felt certain that the “event” – a grey swan, or predictable catastrophe triggered by our enemies, Mother Nature, or just by accident –was inevitable. He had done a Swot analysis – strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats – and concluded that preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one. “By coincidence,” he explained, “I am setting up a series of safe haven farms in the NYC area. These are designed to best handle an ‘event’ and also benefit society as semi-organic farms. Both within three hours’ drive from the city – close enough to get there when it happens.”"

      I feel like "preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one" is an excellent insight.

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      @alienghic @futurebird

      My thought reading that article was that "safe haven farms" are also not actual prepardness for disasters.

      Where does he imagine he would be getting fertilizer from?

      How does he imagine he would survive a hurricane running over them?

      Who is running the hospital that does not exist on them?

      And so on.

      Forcing him to confront that might have made him realize "preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one" actually means.

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      • secretslothS secretsloth

        @futurebird I went to an upper middle class school near DC, and for ages could not figure out why we were taught about climate change ("worst case scenario, we could reach a grim point in ~50 years," graduated 04,) when the "leaders" these kids were being groomed to be were denying this. Clearly, they have known for a long time. But then I realized... well exactly. Of course they knew. They probably knew it was worse than that. But the "leadership" is expected to learn how to lie about it.

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        @secretsloth @futurebird I see part of the problem we have today is that some of these people have been simmering in the lies for so long that they legitimately don't believe the truth anymore and really do think that climate change isn't real, the rich who are fighting against climate reforms have empowered true believers and the looniest subnormals, like Alex Jones or Trump, who are just fundamentally unserious people. Anyone who understands and isn't a total loser would do *something* to mitigate the effects if they had the resources and power, even repressive autocracies like China know they have to do something and are doing it, but the US "leadership" has lost the plot.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          They don't even want people to realize that the problem is real.

          That's not leadership.

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          @futurebird

          I must admit, I feel defeated.

          Timeframe:
          From 1958 to 2025 is 67 years.

          Total estimated extinctions:
          150 species/day
          ×365 days/year
          ×67 years
          ≈3,668,250 species

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            @secretsloth @futurebird I see part of the problem we have today is that some of these people have been simmering in the lies for so long that they legitimately don't believe the truth anymore and really do think that climate change isn't real, the rich who are fighting against climate reforms have empowered true believers and the looniest subnormals, like Alex Jones or Trump, who are just fundamentally unserious people. Anyone who understands and isn't a total loser would do *something* to mitigate the effects if they had the resources and power, even repressive autocracies like China know they have to do something and are doing it, but the US "leadership" has lost the plot.

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            @raven667 @secretsloth

            Trump knows it's real, or is listening to people who do.

            That is why he wants Canada and Greenland.

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            • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

              @alienghic @futurebird

              My thought reading that article was that "safe haven farms" are also not actual prepardness for disasters.

              Where does he imagine he would be getting fertilizer from?

              How does he imagine he would survive a hurricane running over them?

              Who is running the hospital that does not exist on them?

              And so on.

              Forcing him to confront that might have made him realize "preparing for calamity required us to take the very same measures as trying to prevent one" actually means.

              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @michael_w_busch @alienghic

              There is no wonderful modern way of life with microwave food and movies on demand without millions and millions of people.

              You can last ten years, but not twenty. Your kids will live like subsistence farmers.

              If we want to keeps this? We have to keep it all.

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              • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

                @futurebird

                I must admit, I feel defeated.

                Timeframe:
                From 1958 to 2025 is 67 years.

                Total estimated extinctions:
                150 species/day
                ×365 days/year
                ×67 years
                ≈3,668,250 species

                myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tuban_muzuru

                Part of me has become detached to deal with it. Because in the long line of this planet's history other destructive species have existed, thrived and died. Biodiversity ebbs, flows. So really we are destroying all of this for ourselves. We will never get to see or know what we have destroyed.

                Are we exceptional enough to realize and minimize further loss?

                Or are we just another creature that will spam the fossil record with our numerous bones?

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @tuban_muzuru

                  Part of me has become detached to deal with it. Because in the long line of this planet's history other destructive species have existed, thrived and died. Biodiversity ebbs, flows. So really we are destroying all of this for ourselves. We will never get to see or know what we have destroyed.

                  Are we exceptional enough to realize and minimize further loss?

                  Or are we just another creature that will spam the fossil record with our numerous bones?

                  mhagdornM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @futurebird @tuban_muzuru that's exactly how I see. I totally agree with your thread. I would add to your assessment that climate change is already driving some of the conflicts directly.

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    If anyone tells you that they can explain all of the craziness of the world in a single theory be skeptical. The world is complex and many factors drive history.

                    I do think there is one vector of pressure that we don't talk about directly very often that is playing a role in a lot of political edginess. From nativism, to the rightward swing of the UK and US the silent actor is climate change.

                    Because at this point wealthy people know that it is real and I think some of them are panicking.

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                    @futurebird the single theory people know exactly what they're doing. It's called depluralisation, turning all your complex problems into one single manageable hatred "blame the immigrants, blame women..."

                    It's exactly how those in power try to distract those without power

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                    • craignicolC craignicol

                      @futurebird the single theory people know exactly what they're doing. It's called depluralisation, turning all your complex problems into one single manageable hatred "blame the immigrants, blame women..."

                      It's exactly how those in power try to distract those without power

                      Link Preview Image
                      EIP Explainer: Understanding radicalisation | EIP

                      What do we know about the process that turns youngsters into single-truth adherents, or possibly terrorists? […]

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                      @craignicol

                      something isn't working with that link?

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