Yeah, I have the 8bitdo 2C (wireless). Highly recommend it. I'd imagine the wired version is just as good.

I'm often close enough to my PC while playing games that wireless seems a little unneeded, but more than that, I just want fewer batteries to manage.

I'm often close enough to my PC while playing games that wireless seems a little unneeded, but more than that, I just want fewer batteries to manage.

For steam games? Steaminput’s translation layer seems to work pretty well

This is just my opinion, and there are always legitimate use cases for wired vs wireless. Losing connection at the worst time is the main reason. I play online, so it's a complete and absolute, non-negotiable dealbraker to me. Every other benefit wireless gives and every other negative wired gives is trumped by this singular requirement. I won't go into every situation, but almost every minor issue in wireless results in disconnects. This ends up with me using wired anyways, which leads to the problem in my previous post: worn out USB ports. Wired by comparison has far less disconnects. On a side note: I also wanted to add (but didn't feel it was worth editing at the time), razor is stupid expensive for just that one little feature. I've had this controller for years, and back then it was the only one I could find like it. To me, it has been worth - but if I was to buy another I'd definitely look for something similar that is cheaper with possibly more features. It wasn't meant to be a razor promoting post.

I'm often close enough to my PC while playing games that wireless seems a little unneeded, but more than that, I just want fewer batteries to manage.

I'm often close enough to my PC while playing games that wireless seems a little unneeded, but more than that, I just want fewer batteries to manage.

Most wireless controllers today have an integrated battery and can be used in either wired or wireless mode. So it's really just that the battery adds a bit of weight, and someday the thing will fail and maybe cause electrical failure of the gamepad. If that doesn't bother you, could get a dual one and just use it in wireless mode. That being said, I agree with the general principle that one should use wired unless there's a compelling reason otherwise. Avoids security problems, interference issues, and a mess of compatibility issues. I had a Logitech F710 that used a proprietary wireless 2.4 GHz protocol. It didn't support wired mode. At some point, something in my environment started blasting enough 2.4 GHz radio emissions that every now and then, the connection would briefly drop, which was absolutely infuriating, since it could cause one to lose in fast-paced action games. If you very specifically want a gamepad that is only wired...hmm. There are a bunch of low-end, generic wired-only controllers. I can't specifically recommend one of those; I've used a few, but all the ones I've used have had some things that annoy me, and probably a lot of the brands are throwaway ones that have gone under. If you want high-end...most of those are dual wired/wireless. IIRC, Thrustmaster has a high-end gamepad with swappable elements, and IIRC it's wired-only, remember seeing that and thinking "wow, weird, most high-end gamepads are dual". I haven't used it myself. *goes to look* Yeah, the Thrustmaster S eSwap Pro, and it's wired-only. https://eshop.thrustmaster.com/en_us/eswap-s-pro-controller.html Thrustmaster has a long history of making pricey-but-nice high-end game peripherals --- I think the first joystick I ever saw for sale was a nice metal thing from them at a computer expo in the early 1990s --- so I'd generally be willing to try them, if you can live with the price. I don't know if they have Hall effect analog sticks, which some people --- including myself --- like, as they're immune to drift. *kagis* It sounds like the gamepad ships with standard potentiometer-based analog sticks, but that if one is willing to throw even more money at the gamepad, they do sell optional Hall effect sticks that can be swapped in. https://www.thrustmaster.com/en-us/products/eswap-sh5-hall-stick-module/ However, the price is also pretty much in line with their history of being expensive. The basic gamepad is $140, and then *each* Hall effect analog stick module is another $40, which is very expensive for a gamepad; you can get inexpensive wired-only gamepads for something like $15, though they might not have amenities like rumble motors. I've never actually owned a Thrustmaster product myself. I mostly went with CH stuff (another long-running American game input device manufacturer; they tend to make less-expensive, less-nice stuff). But I've definitely heard no shortage of positive stuff about Thrustmaster products over the decades. Might be worth considering if you don't care about the price, specifically want wired, and are looking for high-end stuff.

Alright I’ll preach from high places about the dualsense but *250+USD for a controller* money isn’t really a problem but nahhhhh this insane hahaha

It’s $199 I think, but yeah I understand entirely. I used an Astro C40 before so this was actually the cheaper option of the two.