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The conspiracy theory is that "someone" seeded clouds to cause a flood in Texas.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    The conspiracy theory is that "someone" seeded clouds to cause a flood in Texas. Most responses focus on how cloud seeding isn't powerful enough to do something like this, the absurdity of the gap between the existing technology and what the conspiracy theorists think.

    But can we back up and ask another question: Why?

    Why do the conspiracy theorists think that someone would do something like this? What is the motivation?

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    @futurebird The motivation is purely in their heads to rationalise their disbelief in climate change.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      The conspiracy theory is that "someone" seeded clouds to cause a flood in Texas. Most responses focus on how cloud seeding isn't powerful enough to do something like this, the absurdity of the gap between the existing technology and what the conspiracy theorists think.

      But can we back up and ask another question: Why?

      Why do the conspiracy theorists think that someone would do something like this? What is the motivation?

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      @futurebird

      The motivation question is sound (and proves the conspiracy to be ridiculous) but are you sure that seeding techs aren't up to that task ?
      From the little I know, making already formed clouds rain is exactly what they're able to do.

      (about the motivation, it's quite simple actually, these people think that the world revolves around them, so if they feel bad or look bad for something, it means somebody probably did that to them)

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      • David Penfold :verified:D David Penfold :verified:

        @futurebird The motivation is purely in their heads to rationalise their disbelief in climate change.

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        @davep

        OK. But, why not just say it was a freak flood. Heck, I suspect that climate change is making these things happen more often, but I couldn't say "this was caused directly by climate change"

        It seems like less effort to just decide that it was a freak tragedy.

        I suppose the next part might be the problem? Because regardless to "prevent it from happening again" it means investing in science, building warning systems and trusting the government. hm.

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        • Lien RagL Lien Rag

          @futurebird

          The motivation question is sound (and proves the conspiracy to be ridiculous) but are you sure that seeding techs aren't up to that task ?
          From the little I know, making already formed clouds rain is exactly what they're able to do.

          (about the motivation, it's quite simple actually, these people think that the world revolves around them, so if they feel bad or look bad for something, it means somebody probably did that to them)

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          @lienrag

          Think about the scale.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            @davep

            OK. But, why not just say it was a freak flood. Heck, I suspect that climate change is making these things happen more often, but I couldn't say "this was caused directly by climate change"

            It seems like less effort to just decide that it was a freak tragedy.

            I suppose the next part might be the problem? Because regardless to "prevent it from happening again" it means investing in science, building warning systems and trusting the government. hm.

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            @futurebird Maybe it's something that can be used to explain the sudden increase in "freak" floods generally. Your average MAGA will swallow all this BS anyway, they're not necessarily big on critical thinking.

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            • David Penfold :verified:D David Penfold :verified:

              @futurebird Maybe it's something that can be used to explain the sudden increase in "freak" floods generally. Your average MAGA will swallow all this BS anyway, they're not necessarily big on critical thinking.

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              @davep

              I don't know I wonder if it's maybe a case of "almost getting it"

              There is all of this discussion of how the owners of these richer than sin companies are externalizing problems that all of us will need to clean up.

              "they" have made the weather go haywire... just not in the dramatic targeted way that the conspiracy story imagines. And worse it's all been done to make some more money, to avoid cleaning up after ourselves.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                An act of terrorism that most people mistake for a natural disaster doesn't make the terrorists seem powerful or further their cause. And who exactly would they be anyway?

                Why target that region? Why not target someplace with more people or a military or political target?

                I know it's a mistake to expect coherence, but people latch on to myths because they explain the world in ways that are comforting and predictable.

                How does this even fit in?

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                @futurebird At this point, their definition of "comfort" is "agreeing with the current admin," they just need anything to latch onto so they don't get any pesky doubts about "maybe funding weather response is good 🤔". bc in addition to your points about motives, a robust weather response program could've also noticed "seeded clouds". If they really believed, they'd want MORE weather infrastructure. That they don't shows they have no intention of engaging in good faith.

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                • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)S Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

                  @futurebird At this point, their definition of "comfort" is "agreeing with the current admin," they just need anything to latch onto so they don't get any pesky doubts about "maybe funding weather response is good 🤔". bc in addition to your points about motives, a robust weather response program could've also noticed "seeded clouds". If they really believed, they'd want MORE weather infrastructure. That they don't shows they have no intention of engaging in good faith.

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                  @Sharksonaplane

                  If we could seed clouds like that we could do it to prevent flooding ...

                  It'd save so much money.

                  To weaken hurricanes and steer them away.

                  I'm exasperated.

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                  • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)S Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

                    @futurebird At this point, their definition of "comfort" is "agreeing with the current admin," they just need anything to latch onto so they don't get any pesky doubts about "maybe funding weather response is good 🤔". bc in addition to your points about motives, a robust weather response program could've also noticed "seeded clouds". If they really believed, they'd want MORE weather infrastructure. That they don't shows they have no intention of engaging in good faith.

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                    @Sharksonaplane

                    Oh yeah they can control the weather, something that causes billions of dollars of impact on lives, crops, everything, but it's only ever used for ineffective psyops to "make Trump look bad" ... or something... and it's all secret, the thousands of people such an operation implies and not one of them has said a word about it.

                    I'm sorry but it's WILD.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      An act of terrorism that most people mistake for a natural disaster doesn't make the terrorists seem powerful or further their cause. And who exactly would they be anyway?

                      Why target that region? Why not target someplace with more people or a military or political target?

                      I know it's a mistake to expect coherence, but people latch on to myths because they explain the world in ways that are comforting and predictable.

                      How does this even fit in?

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                      @futurebird

                      Well, you see the problem is you’re not insane. If you were insane, this would make perfect sense.

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