It’s just a [meme format](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/strongest-man-vs-weakest-man) to say indie devs are better than corporate studios. Not the best choice for this context, I would have gone with the “who would win” meme: corporate studios with millions of dollars vs two guys with 7 years and some free time.

Do you _hate_ it, or just didnt enjoy it?

I think it's just that bad metroidvanias are the standard and there arent as many of the good ones as you would think. So the joy of a good one gets pretty hyped. Im not sure its overrated since its a good game and rated at about what that entails just over hyped and concentrated on.

I didn't like it, but my kid LOVED it.

I mean good for them but hollow night was mid af for me, I don’t get the hype

What age are they? (Asking for mine..)

Lycamobile? Do they actually provide games? I only know them as a cheap prepaid SIM card provider lol

Another one: steam has some sort of multiplayer integration for devs, so they don't need to host their own servers and you don't need to expose ports; instead you can add people using your steam friends. Found this out to my sadness when I bought risk of rain 1 on Gog and the multiplayer was completely gutted compared to my friend who bought on steam.

It’s a platformer. It’s not supposed to change you as a person

About a year ago, we started seeing that "this app is depreciating" warning and sure enough, snatched up. But it does still work for now.

I do think it's a grey area. Like, if one person on a three person team is exclusively doing art for the game, would they count as a developer moreso than if the two person team contracted out the artwork to separate company? Or would the other company be considered as a developer?

Like rougelites they sorta suffer from being one of the more accessible game types with regards to development time and effort. I loved the original Hallow Knight but I like platformers like that. I will say though there there has not really been a stand out in the genera as of late which is also contributing to the popularity.

Yeah I don't understand these takes. Did Fortnite or COD "change your life" or are they just popular games.

I'm not sure about the others but for me it's proton integration. As a Linux gamer it makes a hell of a difference.

It Takes Two certainly did. Fallout 76 did because that was how I spent COVID. Hollow Knight was fun.

I *hate* it. The developers don't respect the player's time. They could have done little things to improve on that, like add health bars to bosses so you know when you aren't going anywhere with a particular boss and should go in another direction. They don't do that, and you're expected to blindly grind a boss for 3-4 hours in thw hope that's the right direction to go in the game.

Without spoilers (I'm on the fence whether I'll buy it and play it), are you able to articulate the reason you didn't like it very much, if at all? I'm looking to get a more balanced idea of the game. I watched a streamer I follow play a little bit today, but not much. I'm not sure I got enough of a gist of the game to have an opinion on whether I want to play it. I'm not usually a platformer kind of person, but I don't have anything against platformers.

Maybe soo many people using their data at once? Seems crazy though, likely just people who are trying to load steam store, etc through their phone on data and it doesn't load, so they blame their data connection wrongly

Probably not overrated, you (maybe) just think so because you personally don't like the games. The amount of people excited for it and loving it justify the hype I think.

Tell that to celeste