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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

I don't know how well this puzzle will translate to a toot.

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    @futurebird@sauropods.win other than 0 which never starts a multi-digit number i don't see how can one assign other digits to symbols
    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    myrmepropagandist
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    #21

    @xarvos

    There is more than one valid solution.

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    • LeaL Lea

      @futurebird
      which symbol represents which digit is arbitrary but I liked this way

      ▷
      □
      ▣
      ■
      □▷
      □□
      □▣
      □■
      ▣▷
      ▣□
      ▣▣
      ▣■
      ■▷
      ■□
      ■▣
      ■■
      □▷▷
      □▷□
      □▷▣
      □▷■
      □□▷
      □□□
      □□▣
      □□■

      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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      myrmepropagandist
      wrote last edited by
      #22

      @leadore

      Works!

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        I don't know how well this puzzle will translate to a toot. Imagine each line is on a card:

        □□▷
        □□□
        ■■
        ■
        □■
        □▷▣
        ▣
        □▣
        ■▷
        ■▣
        ▣▷
        □□■
        □▷
        ▣▣
        □□
        □
        ▣□
        □□▣
        ■□
        ▷
        □▷□
        □▷■
        ▣■
        □▷▷

        Put them in order.
        (The 5th graders could do it, but they did have a helpful example first... There may be more than one solution, but I think there is ONE really good order. Can you find it?)

        (I should also mention that every adult I've shown this to gives up. But I only showed it to two rather grouchy teachers.)

        Mason Loring BlissM This user is from outside of this forum
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        Mason Loring Bliss
        wrote last edited by
        #23

        @futurebird I like this. When I teach people about bases, I try to break them free from the symbols having values, and we often end up having them do something in base 3 with circles, squares, and triangles.

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          I don't know how well this puzzle will translate to a toot. Imagine each line is on a card:

          □□▷
          □□□
          ■■
          ■
          □■
          □▷▣
          ▣
          □▣
          ■▷
          ■▣
          ▣▷
          □□■
          □▷
          ▣▣
          □□
          □
          ▣□
          □□▣
          ■□
          ▷
          □▷□
          □▷■
          ▣■
          □▷▷

          Put them in order.
          (The 5th graders could do it, but they did have a helpful example first... There may be more than one solution, but I think there is ONE really good order. Can you find it?)

          (I should also mention that every adult I've shown this to gives up. But I only showed it to two rather grouchy teachers.)

          David J. AtkinsonM This user is from outside of this forum
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          David J. Atkinson
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @futurebird Good puzzle. ‘The proof is left as an exercise for the reader.”

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          • Mason Loring BlissM Mason Loring Bliss

            @futurebird I like this. When I teach people about bases, I try to break them free from the symbols having values, and we often end up having them do something in base 3 with circles, squares, and triangles.

            myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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            myrmepropagandist
            wrote last edited by
            #25

            @mason

            Funny you should mention that.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              Yeah this is harder without cards to move around and put in arrays. But I think it's still possible.

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              not obscene, just deeply concerning
              wrote last edited by
              #26
              @futurebird i tried copypasting into a plaintext editor but some of the line-initial "▣"s got garbled into tofu -_-
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              • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                @futurebird i tried copypasting into a plaintext editor but some of the line-initial "▣"s got garbled into tofu -_-
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                myrmepropagandist
                wrote last edited by
                #27

                @apophis

                What symbols do you like I can do find replace?

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  I don't know how well this puzzle will translate to a toot. Imagine each line is on a card:

                  □□▷
                  □□□
                  ■■
                  ■
                  □■
                  □▷▣
                  ▣
                  □▣
                  ■▷
                  ■▣
                  ▣▷
                  □□■
                  □▷
                  ▣▣
                  □□
                  □
                  ▣□
                  □□▣
                  ■□
                  ▷
                  □▷□
                  □▷■
                  ▣■
                  □▷▷

                  Put them in order.
                  (The 5th graders could do it, but they did have a helpful example first... There may be more than one solution, but I think there is ONE really good order. Can you find it?)

                  (I should also mention that every adult I've shown this to gives up. But I only showed it to two rather grouchy teachers.)

                  ClayfootC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Clayfoot
                  wrote last edited by
                  #28

                  @futurebird

                  4 symbols, so maybe base-4 number system
                  24 "cards" so assume 0-23
                  Only 1 base-4 number in that range has 3 of the same digit: 111 (21). So □ must be 1.
                  Only 9 3-digit numbers in that range, and only 1 of them is 1 followed by 2 digits: 100 (16). So ▷ must be 0.
                  Digits 2 & 3 will have to wait until I get home.

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                  • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                    @futurebird i tried copypasting into a plaintext editor but some of the line-initial "▣"s got garbled into tofu -_-
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                    myrmepropagandist
                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @apophis

                    This looks scary:

                    [[*
                    [[[
                    --
                    -
                    [-
                    [*^
                    ^
                    [^
                    -*
                    -^
                    ^*
                    [[-
                    [*
                    ^^
                    [[
                    [
                    ^[
                    [[^
                    -[
                    *
                    [*[
                    [*-
                    ^-
                    [**

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      @apophis

                      What symbols do you like I can do find replace?

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                      not obscene, just deeply concerning
                      wrote last edited by
                      #30
                      @futurebird the more common unicode emojis might be safer...
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                      • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                        @futurebird the more common unicode emojis might be safer...
                        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        myrmepropagandist
                        wrote last edited by
                        #31

                        @apophis

                        I gave you some ASCII for extra safety.

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                        • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                          @futurebird the more common unicode emojis might be safer...
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #32
                          @futurebird (now i'm wondering if anyone's going to decide on their best "one true" answer by going in unicode order)
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                          • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                            @futurebird (now i'm wondering if anyone's going to decide on their best "one true" answer by going in unicode order)
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                            myrmepropagandist
                            wrote last edited by
                            #33

                            @apophis

                            Well I feel that there is a logic to:

                            ▷
                            □
                            ■
                            ▣

                            But, beyond the triangle I think you can reorder the other three.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              @apophis

                              This looks scary:

                              [[*
                              [[[
                              --
                              -
                              [-
                              [*^
                              ^
                              [^
                              -*
                              -^
                              ^*
                              [[-
                              [*
                              ^^
                              [[
                              [
                              ^[
                              [[^
                              -[
                              *
                              [*[
                              [*-
                              ^-
                              [**

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                              not obscene, just deeply concerning
                              wrote last edited by
                              #34
                              @futurebird oh wow this feels way easier

                              sorting into 3 groups by length, then sorting by first glyph in each...
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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                @apophis

                                Well I feel that there is a logic to:

                                ▷
                                □
                                ■
                                ▣

                                But, beyond the triangle I think you can reorder the other three.

                                LimnobotanikL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Limnobotanik
                                wrote last edited by
                                #35

                                @futurebird @apophis ah i would have reversed the two last ones. But that wouldn't make a difference, would it?

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                                • Dave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)G Dave Dawkins (D. Harrigon)

                                  @futurebird

                                  □
                                  □□
                                  □□□
                                  □□■
                                  □□▷
                                  □□▣
                                  □■
                                  □▷
                                  □▷□
                                  □▷■
                                  □▷▷
                                  □▷▣
                                  □▣
                                  ■
                                  ■□
                                  ■■
                                  ■▷
                                  ■▣
                                  ▷
                                  ▣
                                  ▣□
                                  ▣■
                                  ▣▷
                                  ▣▣

                                  Possible Solution.

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #36

                                  @golgaloth @futurebird I hate it when the file stage1.txt is followed by stage10.txt instead of stage2.txt, but it happens

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                                  • not obscene, just deeply concerningA not obscene, just deeply concerning
                                    @futurebird oh wow this feels way easier

                                    sorting into 3 groups by length, then sorting by first glyph in each...
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #37
                                    originally had "[" as 3 because i was thinking sloppily and figured "big string = big number" but the error was obvious once i'd sorted the [-initial 3-longs into their sequenced groups of 4 at the end and it was clearly skipping a few series

                                    the -^ order was entirely arbitrary

                                    *
                                    [
                                    -
                                    ^

                                    [*
                                    [[
                                    [-
                                    [^

                                    -*
                                    -[
                                    --
                                    -^

                                    ^*
                                    ^[
                                    ^-
                                    ^^

                                    [**
                                    [*[
                                    [*-
                                    [*^

                                    [[*
                                    [[[
                                    [[-
                                    [[^
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