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Call of Duty and Battlefield 6 will both require Secure Boot on Windows

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    You mean CoD (2003) and United Offensive right? *Right?*
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    Cod 2 is where it's at. The smoke blew my mind back in the day
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      Every Riot game requires Secure Boot for Vanguard to work. It's not unique to those two games. And what the fuck would they want with your computer anyways?
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      EA Gets hacked and all the extra info they have been storing on me goes right to the hackers. It's also a huge back door they could sell to shady 3 letter agencies.
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        Archive: https://archive.ph/2025.08.06-204234/https://www.theverge.com/news/720007/call-of-duty-pc-anti-cheat-secure-boot-windows-black-ops-7
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        I mean, this is fine. Secure Boot is on everything motherboard from the last 12 years, there are very few reasons not to have it enabled and those reasons are usually edge case scenarios. Would absolutely take this over a kernel level driver.
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          You mean CoD (2003) and United Offensive right? *Right?*
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          Man... *Call of Duty: United Offense* was the game my squadron played all the time while we were deployed to Iraq in 2007. Someone had a cracked copy they brought with them and we installed it on all our computers in the squadron (we were an IT squadron). Once a day, around lunchtime, we'd shut down the whole squadron for about 30 minutes. We'd hang signs on our doors that said we were closed for "simulated warfare training." Then we'd jump into a massive free-for-all match and shoot everything that moved until there was one person left standing. Someone had dozens of custom maps people had made online, so we always had some new and unique map to play with. I don't miss Iraq, but I do miss those days. CoD was my favorite FPS series back in the day. Now it's complete garbage. *Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2* (the 2009 original, not the 2022 reboot) was the first time I felt like the franchise wasn't trying anymore. I mostly played the campaign mode and that was the first campaign that was basically just a carbon copy of the previous game. Same exact plot, same exact ending, just a new villain who took over for the villain in the previous *Modern Warfare* game. *Black Ops* was kind of weird, but not that bad. However, I completely lost interest when trying to play *Black Ops 2* and haven't bought a new game since. I hear they're up to *Black Ops 6* now?
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            Archive: https://archive.ph/2025.08.06-204234/https://www.theverge.com/news/720007/call-of-duty-pc-anti-cheat-secure-boot-windows-black-ops-7
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            [The Coming Civil War over General Purpose Computing](https://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html). Don't accept "just the tip"
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              I mean, this is fine. Secure Boot is on everything motherboard from the last 12 years, there are very few reasons not to have it enabled and those reasons are usually edge case scenarios. Would absolutely take this over a kernel level driver.
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              sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              I don't see how secure boot is relevant to a video game.
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                If you could have your own server, you could keep playing the game after they decide it's time for you to pay $90 for the next one.
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                BF4 still very playable!
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                  Their AC doesn't work on Linux, so my odds of plying it went to 0 when I found that out. Fuck them anyway. They haven't made a game worth playing in probably decades. There are better cheaper games not ran by greedy corpos.
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                  mellowyellow13@lemmy.world
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                  Yeah the Beta wouldnt even open on Linux. Easy uninstall, thanks goodbye.
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                    I don't see how secure boot is relevant to a video game.
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                    Secure boot requires OS kernel to be digitally signed so that’s just another way to prevent tampering. It’s not like this or any other game will be doing anything other than checking if it’s on because there’s not that much else it can be used for. Secure boot is annoying as hell if you use anything other than Windows though.
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                      BF4 still very playable!
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                      just picked it up for $4 and (after the annoying Punkbuster install) it holds up really well, especially for being 12yo. definitely scratches the Battlefield itch so I don't feel so tempted to buy BF6
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                        They could easily identify the worst hackers just based on the game play data without needing to actually confirm that they have cheats installed. Snapping between spread out people to get a half dozen head shots in a quarter second? Hacking. Locking on to someone behind a wall? Hacking. Hacks that nullify recoil? They should be able to tell by unrealistically precise counter movements. Sure, games can occasionally have network issues that result in these kinds of things but if someone does it regularly then it isn't a networking thing.
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                        The problem with this detection method is that you occasionally run into honest players catching bans for being *legitimately too good at the game*. While rare, there are some players who are accurate enough with their tracking that even professional players would assume they're cheating, and end up getting banned because the developers decided nobody should ever be that good at the game. This ends up putting a skill ceiling on a game, which is uhhealthy for a competitive game.
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                          Man... *Call of Duty: United Offense* was the game my squadron played all the time while we were deployed to Iraq in 2007. Someone had a cracked copy they brought with them and we installed it on all our computers in the squadron (we were an IT squadron). Once a day, around lunchtime, we'd shut down the whole squadron for about 30 minutes. We'd hang signs on our doors that said we were closed for "simulated warfare training." Then we'd jump into a massive free-for-all match and shoot everything that moved until there was one person left standing. Someone had dozens of custom maps people had made online, so we always had some new and unique map to play with. I don't miss Iraq, but I do miss those days. CoD was my favorite FPS series back in the day. Now it's complete garbage. *Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2* (the 2009 original, not the 2022 reboot) was the first time I felt like the franchise wasn't trying anymore. I mostly played the campaign mode and that was the first campaign that was basically just a carbon copy of the previous game. Same exact plot, same exact ending, just a new villain who took over for the villain in the previous *Modern Warfare* game. *Black Ops* was kind of weird, but not that bad. However, I completely lost interest when trying to play *Black Ops 2* and haven't bought a new game since. I hear they're up to *Black Ops 6* now?
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                          My friends and I started on PS3 with CoD ModernWarfare. Playing 4 player splitscreen was fun! Then later when internet around here got better, we played MW2 and Black Ops. A few played BlackOps 2 and I think only one stayed for MW3. I think I even got the Wii version of black ops lol
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                            just picked it up for $4 and (after the annoying Punkbuster install) it holds up really well, especially for being 12yo. definitely scratches the Battlefield itch so I don't feel so tempted to buy BF6
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                            Nice. There are some servers with only the premium maps but if they are cheap it's worth it, including Firestorm, which they are bringing back for BF6. Peak Battlefield.
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                              Archive: https://archive.ph/2025.08.06-204234/https://www.theverge.com/news/720007/call-of-duty-pc-anti-cheat-secure-boot-windows-black-ops-7
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                              Well shit, I was looking forward to bf6
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                                Secure boot requires OS kernel to be digitally signed so that’s just another way to prevent tampering. It’s not like this or any other game will be doing anything other than checking if it’s on because there’s not that much else it can be used for. Secure boot is annoying as hell if you use anything other than Windows though.
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                                sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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                                You can load your own keys and sign whatever you want. It's not going to prevent anyone but the most unsophisticated of cheaters. What it does is prevent malicious code from being injected early in the boot, it doesn't prevent users from loading whatever code they want early in boot.
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                                  You can load your own keys and sign whatever you want. It's not going to prevent anyone but the most unsophisticated of cheaters. What it does is prevent malicious code from being injected early in the boot, it doesn't prevent users from loading whatever code they want early in boot.
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                                  Can you really sign your own modified Windows kernel or drivers? I don’t think that’s how cryptography works.
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                                    No need to require something for an OS they don't plan to support at all anyways, I suppose. 😞
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                                      I mean, this is fine. Secure Boot is on everything motherboard from the last 12 years, there are very few reasons not to have it enabled and those reasons are usually edge case scenarios. Would absolutely take this over a kernel level driver.
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                                      Motherboard TPM has been pwnd so many times. I don't want to enable attack surface and I have other means of verifying my boot
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                                        The problem with this detection method is that you occasionally run into honest players catching bans for being *legitimately too good at the game*. While rare, there are some players who are accurate enough with their tracking that even professional players would assume they're cheating, and end up getting banned because the developers decided nobody should ever be that good at the game. This ends up putting a skill ceiling on a game, which is uhhealthy for a competitive game.
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                                        Plenty of people have been banned for false positives for the current anticheat methods due to corrupted files and whatnot, so I'd rather that a few 'too good for reality' players were banned instead.
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                                          Archive: https://archive.ph/2025.08.06-204234/https://www.theverge.com/news/720007/call-of-duty-pc-anti-cheat-secure-boot-windows-black-ops-7
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                                          Fuck cheaters. I support this. I have no issues with the potential vulnerability concerns to reduce cheating. I can't even remember the last time kernel level anti-cheats resulted in data exploitation.
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